How ICF might evolve into a power plant: https://firstlightfusion.com/technology/power-plant
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2022, at 7:16 AM, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: Excellent! Thanks. I think I'll have to push this topic for another day. I've got a few more links from other fora I'll plop here just in case I only land back here if/when I pop it off the stack later: https://lasers.llnl.gov/news/magnetized-targets-boost-nif-implosion-performance https://spie.org/news/nuclear-fusion-nifs-hall-of-mirrors-may-solve-worlds-energy-crisis?SSO=1 https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/ On 12/13/22 16:23, Steve Smith wrote: I think DT refers simply to the remaining fraction of Deuterium/Tritium remaining after the reaction event (-4%) without specific accounting for remaining D vs T. My understanding is that D-T fusion occurs at a lower temperature than D-D but that once fusion commences (starting with D-T), both D-T and D-D reactions occurring in similar amounts. In laser-driven ICF (as with NIF) I believe the ratio of D/T is nominally 50/50 though it would seem to make sense to have a higher T to D ratio but most references I see imply equal portions. An equal number of D-D and D-T reactions would seem to consume D more quickly, though as that commences, the D/T ratio would go down, making D-T reactions (yet) more likely... tricky business, no wonder it has taken decades to get to this point? The Wikipedia Entry on ICF is pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_confinement_fusion I found several popular science Articles which seem to reinforce my sense that this "breakthrough" is not as significant as implied: https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-breakthrough-nif-uh-not-really Other interesting/relevant links regarding D-T and D-D fusion... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263507001_Species_separation_and_modification_of_neutron_diagnostics_in_inertial-confinement_fusion/figures?lo=1 https://www.energy.gov/science/doe-explainsnuclear-fusion-reactions <https://www.energy.gov/science/doe-explainsnuclear-fusion-reactions> https://science.jrank.org/pages/4732/Nuclear-Fusion-D-D-D-T-reactions.html <https://science.jrank.org/pages/4732/Nuclear-Fusion-D-D-D-T-reactions.html> On 12/13/22 4:36 PM, glen wrote: That's why I asked. I guess I'll assume DT means both deuterium and tritium, not just deuterium. If you were going to track fuel use, you'd track the rarer part more closely, right? On 12/13/22 09:22, Frank Wimberly wrote: DT = deuterium? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 10:21 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: Awesome. Thanks. I'm still trying to catch up with the QC Wormhole kerfuffle. Who knew Quanta was so click baity? What is "DT"? On 12/13/22 09:02, Marcus Daniels wrote: > In case no one wanted to get up at 7:00am to watch DOE administrators talk: > > > 1. Controlling the laser in space and time was important for maintaining symmetry. Timing precision of 25e-12 secs and laser spatial precision of 5e-12 meter were needed. This was thought to be the main explanation for the achievement. > > 2. 8% more power on the laser this time > > 3. x-ray tomography is used to find flaws in the capsules. Developing software to do the counting. > > 4. They have ongoing efforts to study the fabrication systems and their components (done in Germany) to find idiosyncrasies of each. > > 5. Laser technology improvements since NIF was built which are 20% more efficient. > > 6. Target cost is from labor, and it takes 7 months each > > 7. 4% of DT is burned in a shot > > 8. Machine learning ties together radiation hydrodynamics and experimental data. (It sounded preliminary.) > > 9. The (successful) capsule had more defects than previous experiments. However, previous experiments did show benefits from capsule quality. > > 10. 15% of experiments are indirect drive of this kind, 15% of experiments are other approaches to ignition. The rest are weapons and materials characterization. > > 11. Anomalous laser directional control were problems in the summer runs. Fixed that. -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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