Hmmm. Are we? I am skeptical it is. Ok so if it's not...how would we even check? Gravity lensing and guesstimate?
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 10:18 AM Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com> wrote: > Ah, but are we sure the expansion IS uniform? > > ======================= > Tom Johnson > Inst. for Analytic Journalism > Santa Fe, New Mexico > 505-577-6482 > ======================= > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 10:01 AM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> AH! egad, that's so large and far away I can almost get my head around >> it. lol no wonder we want infra-red. that's practically going backwards by >> then >> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Roger Frye <frye.ro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> They are shifted so far to the red that when they reach us, they are >>> stop lights. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 9:42 AM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Same Q! My guess is what they meen is that stuff is reely far away so >>>> it'd be like looking at events that had happened but we can catchup to the >>>> show because of distance somehow due to lag essentially. Someone that knows >>>> more about this then I do hopefully has a much more concrete answer. Fwiw >>>> it's the kind of things that keeps NDGT ( Niel DeGrasse Tyson) up lol >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:21 AM Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In aj NYTimes article: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/science/astronomy-webb-telescope.html >>>>> ..there is the usual discussion on "seeing back to the first several >>>>> millennia". >>>>> >>>>> But, and be kind, why haven't these photons already sped past us? I >>>>> suppose it is because the exanssion is uniformly everywhere, we just kept >>>>> ahead of them? That seems unlikely given the expansion is slower than >>>>> light. >>>>> >>>>> -- Owen >>>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>>>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>>>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>>>> >>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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