Gary Schiltz wrote:
Amusing indeed (the PV magazine article). The pump “reportedly
produces 3 kW to 4 kW of heat for every kilowatt of power it
consumes”. Say what?

this is just the typical way that a "heat pump" works, not by creating the energy in the power, just by concentrating it... ejecting warmer/cooler air/water on the opposite side of the system...

The wider range of air-source functioning: -15 to 50C  and being hydromechanically suitable for liquid-sourcing (e.g. run water through a pipe buried in the ground, or ground-water being pumped for irrigation) makes it yet more suitable.

First glance on the article suggests a better duty cycle with(out) the kinds of moving/friction parts compressors come with (conventional heat-pump)...

I don't know much about the environmental or practical implications of using Helium as a working fluid...  huge molecular size compared to H, but a fraction of most other working gasses?

The 3-4/1 coefficient of performance implied by the article numbers is roughly 10-14EER  or 12-17SEER  to compare with commercial HVAC/Mini-Split numbers...   so in the same general range?

I've never looked hard, but have been curious about an ammonia-working-fluid heat-source refrigeration system (usually used as an off-grid/RV Propane fridge).  Seems like concentrated solar-thermal driving refrigeration (or heat pumping in reverse?) would be pretty elegant?   Ammonia as a working fluid also seems lower-industrial and presumably more environmental than it's more industrial cousins?  I knew people growing up who lived without electric service who had these funny looking refrigerators which had a pilot-light-sized flame in the back that "made them cool"... from a propane tank... crazy talk I thought  then!


On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 8:28 AM Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote:
I was amused to see an announcement of a thermoacoustic heat pump  the other 
day:

   
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/01/02/residential-thermo-acoustic-heat-pump-produces-water-up-to-80-c/

then an ionocaloric refrigerator announcement turns up this morning

   https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2023/01/03/cool-new-method-of-refrigeration/

It seems that you won't recognize your air conditioner in a few years.

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