As the discussion evolves:
But the bot *does* have a body. It just doesn't take the same form as a human body.I disagree re: panpsychism revolving around "interest" or "intention" ... or even "acting". It's more about accumulation and the tendency of cumulative objects to accumulate (and differentiate). Perhaps negentropy is a closer concept than "interest" or "intention". And, although I disagree that experience monism is more primitive than panpsychism, I agree that these forms of panpsychism require mechanisms for composition (against which James is famous) and other structure.
I re-introduce/offer Terrence Deacon's Teleodynamics <https://teleodynamics.org/> which I do not take to be (quite?) as difficult to integrate/think-about asSheldrake's Morphic Resonance <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake>
As with Torebeo's essay on BCS' OOO, Joanna Rączaszek‑Leonardi <https://c1dcs711.caspio.com/dp/6e93a00069a6c46c407e42c6b540/files/3503861>reviews <https://c1dcs711.caspio.com/dp/6e93a00069a6c46c407e42c6b540/files/3503861> Deacon's How Molecules Became Signs <https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s12304-021-09453-9.pdf?pdf=button> giving me a hint of a bridge between the "dualistic" worlds (form V. substance or body V. mind) we banter about here a lot?
I found EricS's recent response very thought provoking, but every attempt I had to respond directly felt like more "stirring" so am holding off until/when/if I might actually be able to add coherent signal to the one I get hints of forming here...
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