What we really need to try is to have 2 APIs open, one to Bard and one to 
ChatGPT and *conduct* them to play together ... or maybe 4 pipes open so that 
Bard's output is part of the prompt, dovetailed with the conductor, for GPT and 
vice versa. Shirley someone out there is submitting Bard output to GPT and vice 
versa. Right? I've been living under a rock lately. So I wouldn't have seen 
social media posts about it.

On 4/6/23 08:13, glen wrote:
Off the top of my head, I can see 3 ways to get music out of the current chat 
interfaces:

1) algorithmic music - E.g. C programs like this:
#include <stdio.h>
int main(int t) {for (t=0;;t++) putchar((((int)(t/12)>>8&t) - (t<<4)) & 
(((int)(t/6)>>6&t) + (t<<2)));}

The code I've gotten out of ChatGPT has been irritating. But I've never asked 
it to write something like that. Or maybe something in PureData or Common Lisp 
Music. Given the above program as a prompt, Bard gave me a slightly different 
one and confidently proclaimed that it was in a different key with some extra 
notes. But it's actually just a *fuzz* version of mine ... which even though 
Bard's gaslighting me, it's still a cool tune. 8^D

2) Time series. If you ask Bard to tell you what the next number in this 
sequence is, it'll tell you: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34. If I get the 
chance later, maybe I'll runs some other sequences by it and see what it can 
tell me. But there's no reason a next-token-predictor shouldn't be able to 
generate music straight out of the gate.

3) Notes as tokens, rather than signals/numbers as tokens. I'm sure such 
exists. But the closest I've come is https://www.w3.org/2021/06/musicxml40/ I 
don't see any reason why these machines couldn't compose MusicXML in the same 
way they can compose source code.

On 4/5/23 22:15, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Yes, if a large language model is trained on all works of Mozart and 
contemporary artists like Haydn, it should be able to create a new piece of 
music which sounds almost like Mozart. Finally we can listen to Mozart's lost 
28th piano concerto or Beethoven's missing 33th piano sonata o_O

-J.


-------- Original message --------
From: Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm>
Date: 4/5/23 1:55 AM (GMT+01:00)
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears:
   - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally
   - they can generate essays, term papers, etc.
   - they can engage in convincing dialog/conversations
     - as "therapists"
     - as "girlfriends" (I haven't seen any stories about women falling in love 
with their AI)
     - as kinksters
   - they can write code

The writing code ability immediately made me wonder if, given a database of 
music instead of text, they could write music?

The dialog /conversation ability makes me wonder about more real-time 
collaborative interaction, improv acting / comedy? Or, pair programming? The 
real-time aspect is critical to my question, as I believe there is something 
qualitatively different between two people doing improv or pair programming 
than simply engaging in dialog. I think I could make a much stronger argument 
in the case of improv music, especially jazz, but AIs aren't doing that yet.




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