I don't have the article, but maybe as a second best the following interview with Geoffry Hinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sitHS6UDMJc
On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 08:16, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote: > Merle -- > > I tried, but it's paywalled to me now. > > -- rec -- > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:39 PM Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote: > >> Didn't read Cory's blog, though I'm still laughing at the blurb for Red >> Team Blues. >> >> But I read Geoffrey Hinton's interview with MIT Tech Review yesterday. >> >> >> https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/02/1072528/geoffrey-hinton-google-why-scared-ai >> >> It's not hype that chatgpt dazzled everyone with a model which is much >> smaller than a human brain, even though it took a fairly huge budget for >> OpenAI to build it. >> >> And I read this posting from an anonymous googler today via hackernews. >> >> https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither >> >> It's not hype that the open source community has rapidly figured out how >> to produce equally dazzling models with drastically smaller budgets of >> resources, and is continuing to iterate the process. >> >> -- rec -- >> >> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:11 AM Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I love the graphic! I've had the misfortune of twice jumping on that >>> roller coaster just before the Peak of Inflated Expectation - once for the >>> AI boom/bust of the mid 1980s and once for the dotcom boom/bust of the late >>> 1990s. Jumped on too late to make a killing, but didn't get too badly >>> damaged by the Trough of Disillusionment either. >>> >>> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:34 AM Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://doctorow.medium.com/the-ai-hype-bubble-is-the-new-crypto-hype-bubble-74e53028631e >>>> >>>> I *am* a fan of LLMs (not so much image generators) and blockchain (not >>>> so much crypto or NFTs) in their "best" uses (not that I or anyone else >>>> really knows what that is) in spite of my intrinsic neoLuddite affect. >>>> >>>> Nevertheless I think Doctorow in his usual acerbic and penetrating >>>> style really nails it well here IMO. >>>> >>>> I particularly appreciated his reference/quote to Emily Bender's "High >>>> on Supply" and "word/meaning conflation" in the sense of "don't mistake an >>>> accent for a personality" in the dating scene. >>>> >>>> A lot of my own contrarian commments on this forum come from resisting >>>> what Doctorow introduces (to me) as "CritiHype" (attributed to Lee >>>> Vinsel)... the feeling that some folks make a (a)vocation out of kneejerk >>>> criticism. It is much easier to *poke* at something than to *do* >>>> something worthy of being *poked at*. I appreciate that Doctorow doesn't >>>> seem to (by my fairly uncritical eye) engage in this much himself... which >>>> is why I was drawn into this article... >>>> >>>> I also very much appreciate his quote from Charlie Stross: >>>> >>>> *corporations are Slow AIs, autonomous artificial lifeforms that >>>> consistently do the wrong thing even when the people who nominally run them >>>> try to steer them in better directions:* >>>> >>>> >>>> *https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9270-dude_you_broke_the_future >>>> <https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9270-dude_you_broke_the_future> * >>>> >>>> >>>> I could go on quoting and excerpting and commenting on his whole >>>> article and the myriad links/references he offers up but will curb my >>>> enthusiasm and leave it to the astute FriAM readers to choose how much to >>>> indulge in. It was a pretty good antidote for my own AI-thusiasm driven >>>> by long chats with GPT4 (converging on being more like long sessions >>>> wandering through Wikipedia after the first 100 hours of engagement). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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