Steve, I am standing by. I will check every fifteen minutes beginning at 12.15 mdt. Thinking a bit more about the lightening situation: From the start, each "side" has an positive feedback effect on the other. So the effect of a positive charge in the cloud is to concentrate negative charges in the ground below and vice versa. And as feelers go out, the positive and negative feelers are drawn to one another until ... . Its a transaction between two agents, in which each is an instrument to the other's action.
It's kind of like love-making, when you think about it. Well, excepting that in the human case, we're dealing with likes attracting likes. N On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 12:43 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Steve, > > > > I didn’t get this memo in time. At minimum, let’s you and I get together > at 1.45 to review our conversation from last week and keep me from > backsliding. > > > > For instance, to abuse the life-guard swimmer metaphor a bit, let’s > imagine a situation in which the swimmer is unconscious and floating. The > swimmer is not an agent. Now, does this make a difference? In one case > there is a “negotiation” between the lifeguard and the swimmer, and in the > other, not. > > > > So, there is a sense in which lightening is made possible by a negotiation > between the charged cloud and the oppositely charged ground. > > > > In the convection situation, would it not be fair to say that there is a > negotiation between the cooler dryer denser air above and the warmer, > moister, less-dense airbelow to find non-conflicting pathways, i.e., > columns of rising and falling air? In each case, “feelers” are put out and > accepted or. > > > > Am I backsliding already? > > Nick > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Stephen Guerin > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2023 11:32 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Thursday > > > > I've started up https://bit.ly/virtualfriam and can hand off host when > someone arrives. I'll have to leave for a 10a meeting and back at 1145a to > check in. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 7:08 PM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We're taking grandson Matthew to Colorado Springs to see the WW2 Aircraft > Museum. We leave tomorrow and return Friday. That means I won't be in > Santa Fe Thursday morning. John Dobson, a regular attendee of vFriam, will > be in Santa Fe that day. We can either skip vFriam this week or Stephen > can start it up and assign a host. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > >
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