I organized a meeting once at LANL and invited Doug, a bunch of people from Sony, and my boss at the time. It wasn’t exactly easy to organize due to how LANL is set up. The Sony people were lovely. Perhaps LANL was a very different organization before the transition away from the University of California as a manger and could accommodate personalities like Doug. But I never would have got away with the things he did, and I’m not so sure he was on the right side. I guess this message won’t really carry any information for anyone except for Steve.
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 3:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Entropy and atmospheric potential vorticity Frank wrote: Doug Roberts? Oh, if ever Doug was rolling in his grave. The swirlies and nouggies I might have endured if he were still alive. NIck I'd almost forgotten about Doug's compulsive adolescent snark directed at your fascination with vortices. It makes me wonder what he'd make of the AI phase transition we are in. He had (IMO) both progressive and regressive ideas about simulation science/tech. Makes me wonder if there is a mirror/parallel quantity to PV which would be Latent Vorticity (LV) and is that similar to the torque that people who might roll in their grave experience? Or is it a measure of the rolling they would do if they could do rolling? How much roll would a Doug Roberts roll if Doug Roberts could roll (in his grave)? I won't even suggest someone train up an LLM on all of Doug's posts in response to Nick's to create a simulacra to harangue him? -- Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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