Cynical aside to Pieter: I think Altman's only vision is a personal net worth greater than his old partner Elon. davew
I believe that for both of them, money is merely a means or constraint to achieving much more abstract, idiosyncratic, hallucinatory, utopian visions. Musk's is clearly rooted in a-good-old-fashioned-sci-fi-future. Altman's openly expressed vision seems to be one of an (overly naive) incremental improvement of the "human condition" on an arc qualitatively similar to the one we've been on since the ramp-up of industry a century or two ago? They both seem to expect technological phase shifts but don't seem to understand that sociological/cultural/spiritual ones would seem to follow inevitably? They seem to only see Jetson-like-visions of self-flying cars and robots? I see cyberpunkesque post/transhuman utopian/dystopian jackpots.
I don't trust either of them, mainly because of the outscale leverage they wield. Musk's current $$ wealth is 200x that of Altman and his industry-dominance has a much broader base. If Altman approaches AGI (asymptotically?) more quickly, he might catch up in terms of /net effect in the world/, but not directly through financial wealth?
I was acutely embarrassed for Musk recently when I watched a clip of him talking about his Grok and Colossus, using his usual "schtick" around "first principles" and "physics based" and I'd swear he didn't understand (or mean) a thing he was saying? It was very buzzword compliant to his stories about Tesla and SpaceX. It sounded like hollow rhetoric aimed at Fox News, Donald Trump (and his allies) and high-school techbro wannabes. Nothing he said sounded the least bit grounded in anything truly technical?
The more I listen to Altman, the more *naive* he seems to me... he is much smoother than Musk and his narcissism is possibly much less significant and much more well disguised.
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