It was fun for a while
There was no way of knowing
Like a dream in the night
Who can say where we're going?
No care in the world
Maybe I'm learning
Why the sea on the tide
Has no way of turning




From: Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Marcus Daniels 
<[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2025 at 1:42 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free will part 20250620 

Indeed. An illusion with no grounding. A social construct. 

From: Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Jochen Fromm 
<[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2025 at 1:39 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free will part 20250620 

My impression is that the answer to the problem of free will can most likely 
not be found in theoretical physics, quantum mechanics or astrophysics. 


For those who would like to know more about it the books from Alfred Mele might 
be interesting. He is a professor of philosophy at Florida State University. 
Will try to get them in library: 


Alfred R. Mele, Free Will, An Opinionated Guide, Oxford University Press, 2022 

Alfred Mele, Free: Why Science Hasn't Disproved Free Will, Oxford University 
Press, 2014 

Alfred Mele Free will and luck, Oxford University Press, 2006 

YouTube interview of Alfred Mele 
https://youtu.be/JmScv7ut22U 

He also appears in "Big Questions in Free Will" 
https://youtu.be/9uRTjfhIf4M 

-J. 







-------- Original message -------- 

From: Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> 

Date: 6/22/25 9:00 PM (GMT+01:00) 

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> 

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free will part 20250620 



Let’s say that Gerard ‘t Hooft is roughly correct with his model of a cellular 
automata (CA) model of the universe and quantum mechanics. 

Let’s further say the model is incomplete because the universe is infinite that 
has a fluctuating metric for space. The ruler gives us the illusion of an 
expanding universe and could be consistent with the observed cosmic background 
radiation. QM unitaries would come from CAs like Fredkin Cas and dissipative 
behavior from CAs like Conway’s Game of Life. 

In that situation, there would be a growing network of causality chains as 
light from one place reached another place. But entanglement would be weird on 
the edges where information encounters one another. 

Does any of this give free will? No, but it seems like it might suggest an 
experiment with advanced telescopes.

Marcus 
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 12:32 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Free will part 20250620 



A second blog post about free will in the series of philosophical blog articles 
nobody needs :) I tried to mention all references and inspirations. If I forgot 
to mention someone please let me know. 
https://blog.cas-group.net/2025/06/the-hard-problem-of-free-will/ 
<https://blog.cas-group.net/2025/06/the-hard-problem-of-free-will/> 



-J. 










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