Lisa by now we learn that nothing changes no matter how we change the faces of
the invaders. Look at the middle east people die everyday and at-least one
would think this is not working. I still don't understand how one person from
each side can not sit down and talk to each other without any threat of killing
people. Plus they can get millions to throw stones and bullets at each other
and not see that isn't working now and did not work in the past. So why does
anyone think it will work in the future ? These so called leaders are the
cause. Time move in leaders or speakers that realy want peace and if they can
not, change them right away not every 2 years not every 4 years and those life
time dictators should never be given the power to rule any country. The
leaders work for the people and the people need to remove anyone that thinks
they are the almighty. What they need to do is remember time is getting short.
Enjoy life the way it should be.
Damm Lisa forgive me if went off, but something set me off. THANKS.
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From: Lisa Dillon <lisa_dil...@hotmail.com>
To: frostysamerindian@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:16:16 PM
Subject: RE: [frostysamerindian] Fw: Canada: Peace, Order, Good
Governance...and Violence?
it is disgusting this prosess is even concidered
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From: frostyca2...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:19:03 -0800
Subject: [frostysamerindian] Fw: Canada: Peace, Order, Good Governance...and
Violence?
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Subject: Fw: Canada: Peace, Order, Good Governance...and Violence?
Some people feel pretty strong about this
issue...
Canada: Peace, Order, Good
Governance...and Violence?
byRafe Mair l The Canadian.org
Let me explain the title
to this article. Canada’s overriding mission, according to its constitution. is
“Peace, Order and Good Government”, yet I see violence ahead and It’s all about
the Tar Sands in Alberta, the worst polluting project in the world, and
proposed
pipelines from them to the British Columbia ports of Kitimat and Vancouver.
As an inseparable companion is the Keystone XL
pipeline from the Tar Sands to Houston, Texas.
Sniffing anxiously around
is China which has $75 BILLION invested in the oil pit.
It must be noted that in the middle of the
mess that’s a-brewing are First Nations, who, in contradistinction to many
aboriginals elsewhere, carry a lot of legal weapons arising out of Supreme
Court
of Canada decisions and their rights to unceded territories in BC, and it may
be
within that power that they can stop pipelines - and their stated goal is to do
just that.
A version of this
article first appeared on the website of Strategic Culture Foundation, a
Russian
online paper.
The proposed pipelines to
Kitimat through BC will be sited through one of the last real wilderness areas
in the world. There are two pipelines – one to carry the Tar Sands gunk,
officially called bitumen, and the other to take back to Alberta the condensate
which is mixed with the Bitumen to allow it to flow through the pipeline.
Enbridge, the pipeline company, has an appalling record on spills and time
taken
to respond.
Of huge importance is the shipping of this
gunk down the coast of BC, arguably the prettiest and most treacherous coast in
the world.
First Nations, plural, have unceded land where they have
traditionally fished and hunted for centuries. All along the pipelines and down
the coast the various nations have said, “no way”. And as to the tanker
traffic,
the huge Exxon Valdez spill in 1989 remains burned in their memories.
Meanwhile, on the south coast of BC, another
pipeline battle is mounting around KinderMorgan's plans to turn Vancouver into
a
major shipping port for the Tar Sands. The company wants to boost the existing
Trans-Mountain Pipeline, designed to supply the Lower Mainland with oil for
local uses, from 300,000 barrels to 700,000 barrels a day, with hundreds of
Suezmax tankers shipping toxic bitumen through the Salish Sea en route to Asia
and the United States.
The stakes of this issue were ratcheted up a
notch when the First Nation in whose traditional territory the pipeline
terminates and the tankers depart from - the Tsleil-Waututh ("People of the
Inlet") - took a strong stance
againstthe expansion of this pipeline
and tanker traffic through their waters.
Up until recently, KinderMorgan may have figured
it was going to slide its pipeline under the radar, while protests raged
against
Enbridge and TransCanada (the company behind the Keystone XL). But it looks
very
much now as though they won't be so lucky.Hanging over these proposals is the
uncomfortable truth
that spills from the pipelines and tankers are not a threat but a reality
waiting to happen. On the tanker issue, for example, Environment Canada,
scarcely full of Greenies, says that there will be a spill of 1,000 barrels
every four years and a 10,000 BBL spill in 9.
Here’s the chilling fact:
not only are the spills a certainty, no matter what size the spill the damage
will be horrific. The Enbridge pipeline passes through Caribou feeding grounds
and over and through a great many fish bearing rivers and streams including
three major salmon spawning rivers.
I would suggest readers go to this siteto see the Enbridge spill into the
Kalamazo River in
Michigan and note that Enbridge’s record on this spill is typical and it hasn’t
been cleaned up 15 months later (and never will be). Remember, this spill
happened in a populated area, not the wilds of British Columbia.
Let’s
take a look at the Keystone XL pipeline to Houston. Readers have no doubt read
about the rallies including movie stars in front of the White House. President
Obama has postponed the
decisionuntil 2013.
Here's the
crunch – this postponement means that huge pressure now will be mounted against
by the government of Canada and within hours of the President’s announcement
the
Canadian Minister of Finance, Jim Flaherty said, “it may mean we have to
move quickly to ensure that we can export oil to Asia through British
Columbia”. (Cynics like me note that the formal environmental hearings
of Mr Flaherty’s government have scarcely begun, confirming what we always knew
– these hearings are a farce.)
That is a declaration of war.
I am
a peaceful man who hates violence so much he turned off the first Harry Potter
movie. I have lived in, and loved my province for a lifetime of nearly 80 years
and I can tell you that there’s going to be violence and that I will be lying
in
front of the first bulldozer. The largest of the First Nations along the
proposed pipeline has contemptuously turned down a 10% piece of the action.
Unless that’s just part of a dickering process –I don’t think so – First
Nations
will pose a huge actual and political problem for the Federal
Government.
Moreover, it’s not just the pipelines that will be resisted –
I don’t believe that coastal First Nations can be bought off and the pipelines
are useless without the tanker traffic.
What President Obama and Finance
Minister Flaherty have done is to all but ensure violence. Obama’s postponement
until 2013 really means more like 2014 since the Keystone XL people know that
they must, as a minimum, come up with an alternative to avoid the environmental
concerns with their present plans. Trans-Canada is already trying to push the
project forward with a few minor tweaks,but that may be wishful thinking as the
have to get by
the growing numbers of environmentally sensitive people who will have been
emboldened by Obama’s action. In the meantime the pressure on BC will
substantially increase.
This brings in China. It’s not just the money,
although even to China, $75 billion is a hell of a lot of dough; what’s also at
stake is China’s need for oil. What will China do? It sure as hell isn’t going
to just turn around and find another pen to play in. Ironically, the BC premier
has just been in China trying to sell them BC lumber and BC coal!
Let’s
pause and catch our breath. Are we not supposed to be weaning our way off the
use of fossil fuels? Are we not supposed to be finding alternative sources for
our power and fuel needs? Yet here we have the Premier of British Columbia
flogging coal, for God’s sake! And we have the national finance minister unable
to wait to destroy our province in order to jack up production and sales of the
worst fossil fuel of the lot!
It would be folly and unhelpful for me to
predict how China will deal with the US but clearly British Columbia can be and
will be hit hard.
Doesn’t that mean that Canadians will buckle under
pressure?
That’s what Mr. Flaherty hope, but I believe he’s whistling
past the graveyard. He doesn’t know or understand British
Columbians.
Back in 1992 the federal government held a national
referendum on proposed changes to the Constitution which we were told would
solve all our problems with Quebec. One of then-Prime Minister Mulroney’s
senior
aides told me and my radio audience that if the referendum failed, the country
would immediately collapse. In the face of extreme forces such as 100% of
business and 100% of labour, plus both the federal and provincial governments,
British Columbians turned it down by just under 70%! Every single constituency
(the votes were counted according to provincial election boundaries) turned
this
deal down and it was fascinating to see that every ethnic area voted just as
the
rest of British Columbians did. In short, British Columbia is very different
than other provinces - it doesn't accept threats.
There is always the
danger that the forces for expanding the Tar Sands to Asia will abandon the
highly controversial Enbridge pipeline for the lesser known expansion of the
KinderMorgan line to a tanker terminal in Burnaby, next to Vancouver.
If
that’s the plan, the war simply shifts battlefields. And the First Nations and
their supporters have already signaled their intention to fight
back.
Take it from me, as they sing in The Music Man, “There’s Trouble in
River City” – a heap of trouble.
