On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:44:37AM +0200, VOROSKOI Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I love rf, so i won't start the SEC support without that :) Just an idea
> about it: We should add a file called RELEASE or so to the darcs tree.
> In that case rf would be able to handle these things automatically. So
> when i make changes in -stable repo it should upload to -stable. IMO it
> reduces the opportunity of mistakes. What do you think?

that's not a too big problem even without a RELEASE file. i mean to
determine if we're in -current or -stable. the stable->0.4 conversion is
the best if it's based on the symlink at /pub/frugalware (if necessary,
i can add a repoman option for this so that rf can use it)

> Having syncd is also good. We should handle it manually too, but it's
> always cool to have things done automatically. And please add mail
> support on fail too so we can keep track what is really done.

hmm, do we have a task for this?

> In case of Frugalware the fixes are done by the maintainers. For example
> in debian the sec fixes are done by the security team. I don't know why
> is it good for them, so i don't want to follow this method. So SEC guys
> just report the bug and the m8r fixes it. In extraordinary cases (orphan
> package, m8r on holiday, etc) we'll find out what to do. I think in this
> case the SEC team should handle it.

let's see. basically i don't know how much work to backport changes with
our release cycle (6 months). for example when a newer version requires
a newer lib, then we should extract the security fix - these kind of
work is very different from the work which is done in -current. doing
both paralelly is a nice idea - let's hope it's possible

btw Gentoo has a separate sec team for this, too. so maybe we should
consider this idea. something like:
1) SEC team notifies the m8r
2) m8r fixes the problem in -current
3) SEC team backports the fix to -stable

or this would be too much for the SEC team?

> The current method is quite good IMO. The SEC team should give as much
> information as it can. I mean links. Not novels :)
> We can discuss the problems in the BTS if something isn't clear.
> Is it possible to create a SEC group in BTS and add it to the
> notification list for every [SEC] bug?

ironiq? if not, then we can still create an alias, for example
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which points to the necessary people :)

> > 4) if we really start then more infrastructure: mailing lists, an common
> > form to post advistories, etc
> 
> Yes, a mailing list is musthave. Here we can report the *fixed* issues.
> So i don't want to report the problem itself on this mailing list, just
> the frugalware specific fixes.
> A report should look similar:
> 1: Affected package with version number
> 2: Maybe a CVE or Secunia link
> 3: Link for the fixed packages both for -current and -stable
> 4: My bank account :)

probably after a few advistories we can make a script for this (less
time, less typos). and maybe here we should consider signing these mails
with gpg -> another question: a common key for the sec devels or one of
each dev? i'm not sure about this (at Slack this is not a question, only
Pat does such updates ;) )

udv / greetings,
VMiklos

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