On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Gabriel C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 5) graphical installer
> >
> > when we were at 0.1 i thought a graphical installer for 1.0 is a
> > musthave. nowadays i'm not that sure. if we want it, how do we want it?
> > having a so-called installer (which in fact isn't a real installer) like
> > Ubuntu has? (fwlive+a pygtk or pyqt script) or do we want a real
> > graphical installer like Fedora does?
> >
> > i think a graphical installer is more like the later, but that's more
> > complicated and i'm not too motivated to code it :S
>
> Well you can write an graphical installer in some weeks , heh.
>
> The LiveCD-installer-mode can be done even using dialog :-) hehe but then
> we will face some problems
> because we *have* to *force* an default install.
>
> ( already played with something like this :-D )


IIRC I had a repo somewhere of a graphical live installer I started writing,
but I don't think it actually did anything. Anyway, *IMHO* a live installer
is better because then you can try it and install it if you like it without
needing to download 2 ISOs (Live and Install)

>
> > 6) sysvinit-translations
> >
> > you probably remember when Alex started to work on upstart. then it
> > turned out that it lacks of basic features like disabling a service.
> > finally Alex resigned and nobody continued that work, so it seems we
> > will still use sysvinit for a while.
>
> Not officially yes I did on my local tree but to be honest upstart is all
> but ready.
>
> When I want to replace sysvinit I do *not* want to use an different init
> system in
> * sysvinit compat * mode at all.
>
> In sort as long upstrat does _not_ have any stable formats etc we should
> not even think about to use it.
>

Upstart 0.5 will definitely have the proper support necessary to fully
replace sysvinit, e.g. ability to disable services, proper dependencies,
etc. I don't think it will be ready in time for 0.9 though.

Thanks,
Alex

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