On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:30 +0200 Miklos Vajna
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:54:36PM -0400, Cory Burgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > IMHO GUI installers are unnecessary.
> 
> For you. It may be useful for others.

Easier maybe, but a working installer is a working installer.

> >  However, I think the current installer is very buggy.
> 
> Patches welcome. Please remember that this is a developer list, not a
> bugtracker. ;-)
> 
> > Moreover, I think some scripting language would be more suited for
> > implementing an installer, given that the installation is largely a
> > batch job anyway.
> 
> Please do a 0.3 netinstall which comes with the shellscript one. It was
> horrible slow.

I'll give it a try, then.

> > Shell (mostly bash) installers have worked -- and continue to work --
> > very well for many distros for a long time (Slackware and Arch, for
> > example, among others).
> 
> Slackware does not have dependency support, Arch does not have support
> for multiple CDs. We do both, and doing it in shell is a nighmare.

KateOS uses a modified Slackware installer.  It has both dependency
support and multiple CDs.

> > The C installer is much larger and more complicated than an installer needs 
> > to be, and while it appears to be well designed, it is unnecessarily 
> > complex and therefore bug-prone and difficult to maintain.
> 
> Please don't estimate how hard is to maintain till you haven't walked in
> our shoes.

I've attempted several times to write bugfixes for it.  It likes to
segfault at seemingly random times, and it's not always reproduceable.

> > Just my two cents (increasingly valuable thanks to gasoline prices).
> 
> And decreasingly valuable to who lives outside the US. ;-/
> 
> OK, just kidding; but the part about "our installer is more complex than
> writing it in shell" still remains, IMHO.

Nope, unfortunately for us folks in the US, you're not kidding :p

-- 
Cory Burgett
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