On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 03:05:54PM +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote: > Switching to a "better init system" is a good idea, but it seems it's > like the initrd one: nobody really seem to work on it even in long term.
True. Let me think about if I want to give it a try or not.
> Also, if we switch, I don't think it's trivial that we want upstart, I
> remember we had issues with it because nobody really used the native
> scripts, just via the sysvinit-compat support, which is in that form
> bullshit. :)
IIRC Alex was quite sure that he wants upstart. 0.5.0 released a month ago
so it would be a good starting point.
I only want to play with it if someday we switch to the complete
replacement. (Well, that should work at least as good as sysvinit does.)
>> Restarting should be done by the init system. Anyway, monitoring support
>> would be good, but what about zabbix? So why should we prefer monit?
>
> Not sure, I haven't compared them. Though zabbix seem to be unpackaged.
> Do you know both of them to give a brief comparision?
I know none of them as they are not for desktop users. Well, supporting
monit is far better than none of them.
>> Well, usually newer packages are better too, but for safety reasons it
>> worth keeping those packages for a few weeks or so.
>
> My favourite example is installing java 5 from 0.5 just because in some
> cases some broken (closed-source) apps still doesn't work with java 6.
Ahm, that's a different case, true. Maybe some options=('keepfpm') could
help. Or you also want to handle pacman -Su cases with some IgnorePkg-like
behaviour? That would be easier with java5, java6 etc. packages. Am I
wrong?
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