On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:50:53 +0300
Marius Cirsta <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi and wellcome.

Thank you.

> 1. Frugalware does use xz to compress packages right now.

Nice.

> 2. You can use the netinstall ( minimal LiveCD ) or CD1 to just
> install "base" and then use pacman to just install everything else you
> need

OK.

> 3. Frugalware does have a rolling release called current, once every 6
> month there's a freeze and that becomes the stable. Some people
> need/use stable while the devs and many others use the rolling release
> current. We keep current in a working state at all times and it's
> usable even though it might have some bugs and stuff now and then.

This is very nice.

>  Compared to Arch we try and make things easier for the user that no
> intervention is required and such things, there's no messages that you
> need to do this and that. Indeed we have no AUR but all our packages
> are maintained by developers and if you need anything you can
> contribute a FrugalBuild or ask for one in the bug tracker. It's not
> that hard to make a FrugalBuild and contribute it, see here :

Thank you. It makes things simpler 'cause there is no need for extra
aur-helper...and I've tried many of 'em. :-)

>  Our installer is not in a pretty good shape right now so I'm not sure
> about that... someone else should answer those questions. We're going
> to develop a new installer though but I'm not sure when that will be
> ready.

I did chat with James Buren (hopefully he's ryuo on #frugalware) and
I've heard about plans for new installer.

>  A normal install works in VirtualBox, it do work for me that is ....
> I just created 2 primary partitions from the virtual drive  ( / and
> swap ) and used that.

I'm now trying with new install in VM, but previously faild with GPT
disk 'cause grub2 needs this extra 2M partition which is not required
for syslinux which we use on our machines.

>  What I want to make clear is that we're open to contributions ,
> suggestions and any improvements you might think of .... So even if
> Frugalware might not suit your needs from the start we can work on it
> together.

Sounds good.

At the moment, it seems that having raid-1 setup with all the partitions
(/boot, /, /home, swap) under lvm2 is not possible with the current
installer.  :-(

However, I may try with somewhat more usual setup (separate /boot) and
the the rest under lvm2 on my netbook machine, to see how far we can
come.

>  Thanks for deciding to try Frugalware and hope to see you around. IRC
> is also a good place to talk to us, #frugalare.dev on freenode.


So far, I can say that we like some of the Frugalware's concepts,
although I'm not sure whether we have skills and/or time to help with
more core stuff.

Arch's mkinitcpio (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio) has
support for many different hooks:

gour@atmarama ~> mkinitcpio -L
==> Available hooks
   autodetect      encrypt         ide
mdadm_udev         pcmcia          shutdown        usb
base               filesystems     keymap
memdisk    resume          sleep           usbinput
consolefont        fsck            lvm2
mmc                sata            timestamp       usr
dmraid     fw              mdadm
pata               scsi            udev
virtio


so it's easy to build ramdisk with all required modules.

Maybe you can take a look...

Frugalware is described as "..designed for intermediate users (who are
not afraid of text mode)", so I believe that it should support
'intermediate' disk setups (raid-1, lvm2, encryption...) which are
becoming more common nowadays when the HD space is quite cheap. 


Sincerely,
Gour


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faultily, than another's duties perfectly. Destruction in the course 
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