Todd,

The CD's that were created in advance were the mini-cd's.  When we ran out of
those, we used regular CD's.  When I saw that this was happening, I did indeed
make a new image that included Maxima and Emacs, but this was not done for all
the big CD's.  Maybe next time we could try a targeted approach--make CD's for
general users and CD's for more specific audiences.  

I do know that I talked to a couple people who seemed genuinely glad to have
someone hand them a free Office program---one guy said, "This is great---I
just erased my copy of Microsoft Office" (how does that happen?).  Don ran
into the same kind of thing.  

Scott

On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 08:54:22AM -0500, Todd Hammond wrote:
> Congratulations to everybody on the success of the free CDs.  A couple
> of opinions about the CD for next time.
> 
> I'm not sure, but it looked to me like there might have been space on
> the CDs (which seem to be the 80min/700MB type) to squeeze on maxima
> after all.  My Calc students (Calc I and Calc II) would be more
> interested in this than Octave, though I'd hope that both could be
> included.  This may be another 40 or so students per year that might be
> drawn towards open source.  (PS: emacs also integrates well with maxima,
> if you'll pardon the pun.)
> 
> Although it seems important to have things like OpenOffice as a matter
> of principal to tell people that they can avoid many Microsoft products,
> as a practical matter most windows users would probably continue to use
> the products they already have.  On the balance, I'm not sure as a
> practical matter whether all the space is worth it; we could promote
> still more free software with that space.
> 
> Could I suggest including (a real version of) emacs next time? There are
> different windows versions on http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/,
> including a "barebin" version of only 4.2 M.  (I don't know what
> xemacs/setup.exe is on the CD, but it can't be the real thing, I think,
> in only 185K.)  There are also fuller versions if space would permit.
> It is certainly one of the first programs I have installed on the
> occasions when I have been stuck using windows; a good fraction of the
> unix/linux world probably feels the same way.  Emacs also does some (for
> me) common editing jobs that I don't think vi does; e.g., except for
> pc-write for dos, I don't know of another program that does such good
> job editing text in columns, so might be of interest even to hard core
> vi users.  I also regularly use the emacs outline mode, etc.  At any
> rate, not every emacs user will find it appealing to have just vi.
> 
> Todd
> 
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