On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Paul W. Frields <sticks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:13:14AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:13:52AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Paul W. Frields <sticks...@gmail.com> 
>> > wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 05:56:17PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:14:47AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> > >> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05:13AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
>> > >> > > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 09:26 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > I can go through the group reseveration proposal process, if 
>> > >> > > > > you'd like
>> > >> > > > > but I'm worried I'll be nagging you for a lot more information.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > You're probably right -- after all, it's been a requirement for 
>> > >> > > > the
>> > >> > > > person signing the actual contract to work this out.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > it's right here:
>> > >> > > > > http://www.marriott.com/meetings/group-travel/schedule-groupBooking.mi?marshaCode=phxte
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > I can fill it out tomorrow after consulting a bit on what our
>> > >> > > > > requirements are.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Usually, rather than filling out the form, it's easier to simply 
>> > >> > > > phone
>> > >> > > > the hotel directly and ask for the group coordinator.  More 
>> > >> > > > efficient
>> > >> > > > and you can generally avoid getting highballed (on price) that 
>> > >> > > > way.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Well, then here's all the contact information:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > * Phone:  1-480-966-2800
>> > >> > >   * Fax:  1-480-829-8446
>> > >> > >   * Sales:  1-480-966-2800 ext. 619
>> > >> > >   * Sales fax:  1-480-829-8446
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm going to call them this afternoon Eastern time (their morning
>> > >> > local time).  Thanks.
>> > >>
>> > >> I called the Courtyard this afternoon and had a very pleasant exchange
>> > >> with John, one of the group sales coordinators.  Although their
>> > >> published rate is still actually around $149, Seth provided some
>> > >> online booking references for the $99 rate.  They are actually
>> > >> provided as part of a "Buy 2 Get 1 Free" deal, meaning 3 nights works
>> > >> out to an average rate of $99.  Since we are going to be using at
>> > >> least 3 nights for just about everyone who's there, I'm pretty
>> > >> confident about negotiating for it.
>> > >>
>> > >> I also found out they have plenty of space for a 50-room block, and
>> > >> will not hold us to any kind of maximum attrition (meaning we don't
>> > >> pay for rooms we don't use).  We'd be required of course to give those
>> > >> rooms up out of the block after a specific deadline, meaning they go
>> > >> back to the general room population for letting to whoever comes
>> > >> along.  That's expected and perfectly acceptable.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm having an email conversation as follow-up with the coordinator, so
>> > >> please stay tuned -- I'll have more information soon.
>> > >
>> > > The Courtyard tells me the $99 rate is limited to a maximum of two
>> > > rooms for the weekend as a special deal through hotels.com.  However,
>> > > they're willing to extend us a rate of $129/night, which is still a
>> > > pretty substantial savings in my opinion.
>> > >
>> > > I'm going to try to rake them over the coals a little more, but if
>> > > that won't work, are there strident objections about going with this
>> > > hotel?
>> > >
>> > > /me eyes Robyn, who spent quite a bit of time working on hotels
>> > > already.  If she can feel good about this choice, then so can I.
>> >
>> > I think this seems like a reasonable deal.  Are they aware that we're
>> > looking at another hotel?
>> >
>> > And - are they able / willing to give us any concessions like -
>> > * offering up a room for hackspace
>> > * OR - offering us maybe some upgrades from regular rooms to suites -
>> > so we have some living space to go along with sleeping areas to hack
>> > in / keep soda / eat pizza in?
>> >
>> > If not - how much is a hackspace going to cost? I was pretty
>> > comfortable with the Mission Palms not having a dedicated room - just
>> > because it has a giant courtyard with TONS of seating, patio heaters,
>> > fireplaces, and a really enormous lobby - plenty of spaces for people
>> > to spread out and get together.  I'm not entirely sure what the
>> > Courtyard tempe has - there are photos, but i haven't actually walked
>> > around inside / outside to get a feel. It may be adequate as well.
>>
>> When I spoke to the sales coordinator on the phone, I mentioned that
>> we would want (1) a hospitality area on arrival night (Friday 1/28),
>> and (2) a suite or other large room in which people could expect to
>> meet after hours, 24/7.  I made sure to tell him it would probably be
>> best for that room to be located somewhere the inhabitants wouldn't
>> disturb other guests.
>>
>> I sent another message to the coordinator on Friday night (my time)
>> letting him know that we really need them to do better than the $129
>> rate.  He made a big deal on the phone about how they'd normally step
>> down the rate a little at a time to get there, but I figure that's
>> normal "sales guy" talk.
>
> Excellent news -- we have achieved a $99 rate for the hotel!  We will
> have at least 30 rooms guaranteed for this rate in our block, and I
> have high hopes we'll be able to raise that to closer to 50.
>
> I also spoke with the same sales manager, and reiterated that we want
> a hospitality suite for Friday night, and a hack suite for the length
> of the conference.  I'm not yet sure how they propose to accommodate
> us, but I explained how we intended to use both.  I asked for a
> meeting room of around 450-650 sq ft for the hospitality suite, but I
> left the question open to them how best to accommodate us for late
> night hacking.

Just as a point of interest -
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/event-planning/floor-plans/phxte-courtyard-tempe-downtown/

The Courtyard has 3 meeting rooms - 2 are actual configurable meeting
rooms, one with a capacity of 30 and the other of 70; the third is a
conference room, with a capacity of 12, presumably a fixed table.



>
> Jared tells me his contact in the area says they will have a hard time
> installing line-of-sight at the Courtyard, so I also asked the
> Marriott guy to provide information about enhancing their broadband
> pipe for our conference.  Hopefully the money we save with the cheaper
> hotel will enable us to spring for that broadband enhancement.
>
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