>lol you mean the RAF stuff ? that was ages ago and we learned from that. or in >the 70s at olympia. >sure that was bad since we didnt even have special forces as we werent used to >terrorists or war anymore >we usually dont bother about such things. usa is mainly focused on war >industry though
ok sorry i didnt finish this. i didn't have much sleep last night so execuse me please. what i missed is that we didnt have special forces but we have some now. and i'm very confident they would do a good job. also if we have a disaster we dont have to wait 6 days for help to arrive i trust my gov on that. i feel pretty save also "if" a terrorist attack would happen we surely would not invade a country. unless that countries gov is attacking us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GroundZero Security" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jamie C. Pole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recentevents.(fwd) > well at least our tax money goes back into our own country for the > infrastructure etc and > wont be used to kill innocent people. remind me again, how much does your gov > spend a year on war industry ? > why the hell do you need so many nukes ? but then bitch if some other country > starts to build some. > of course since now you can show off with them and if some country is really > pissing you off, hell then you > nuke em. of course if any other country would do the same the us gov would > bitch too and point fingers. > since once a country got nukes too usa gets afraid that their actions could > have results in their own country. > normally its like usa plays war and at home nothing happens, but if someone > ever manages to hit their country > then they'd be whining. reminds me of a really funny thing in iraq war, they > send in high tech soldiers but then start > to whine on tv on how about its unfair that the iraqies got night visions (i > belive from the russians but i'm not sure). > > oh and i just saw your last mail: > > >We are not looking for leibensraum - we > >are just looking to be safe. > > yeah right as if that would be true :P your gov knows that war pays off. > many many wars you where in didnt have anything todo with the savety of your > own country. > > >Given the history of terrorist activity in Germany, I'm really > >surprised that you feel the way you do - > > lol you mean the RAF stuff ? that was ages ago and we learned from that. or > in the 70s at olympia. > sure that was bad since we didnt even have special forces as we werent used > to terrorists or war anymore > we usually dont bother about such things. usa is mainly focused on war > industry though. > > >your government is benefitting from the intelligence > >that is being gathered as well. > >Thankfully, Ms. Merkel seems to understand that. > > well sure if you may fed us some pieces but afterall you guys spy on us too > or why do we have an nsa echelon station sitting here in germany ? > hm isnt nsa for national security only why do they opperate international ? > (yes google earth is fun - look near munich its even named) > maybe i'm wrong but i'm not familiar with all your agencies and what they are > for. > you cant make us belive that you aint listening on us. > funny thing is also that usa say's they would not spy on other countries. > i really wonder that by the amount of lies and propaganda comming from your > gov > that you feel the way you do. but thats because your in it i guess. > your working directly for the gov/mil as far as it seems? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jamie C. Pole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about > recentevents.(fwd) > > > > > > Was that a joke? > > > > I love Germany (it's one of the 24 countries that I have worked in, > > by the way), but be realistic. All ethnocentrism aside, I'm not sure > > that welfare economies that tax the living daylights out of those > > lucky enough to have a job are a good idea. > > > > JCP > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:14 PM, GroundZero Security wrote: > > > > > "we in the USA are still the luckiest people on Earth." > > > i would not count on that. i feel much saver/happy here in germany. > > > > > > "We've got it better than any other country on Earth." > > > lol yeah right.. in your dreamworld maybe. did you even leave usa > > > before ? > > > i doubt that. > > > > > > "If you like some other place better, please feel free to move > > > yourself there." > > > yes thank you! i like it much more here in my country so i stay :-) > > > i just have to fear that usa starts to take over the world thats > > > all i have to worry about here. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jamie C. Pole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk> > > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:04 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about > > > recent events.(fwd) > > > > > > > > >> > > >> I'm sorry, but I was also FAR too close to one of the 09/11 attacks. > > >> While I agree that giving up (supposedly) certain civil liberties is > > >> most decidedly not a good thing, we need to remember one key point - > > >> the same liberal whiners that are complaining about the monitoring of > > >> certain targeted individuals would be shitting themselves to get in > > >> line to scream about the President not doing enough to protect us if > > >> there was another attack. This was not a blanket wiretap against > > >> every citizen that made a telephone call to London. These taps were > > >> conducted under defined circumstances. If you are not a terrorist, > > >> and do not associate with terrorists, you have nothing to worry > > >> about. The indignation being shown by the liberals right now is > > >> shocking - this information was not news to anyone within Congress > > >> (from either party) that was in a position to know it. > > >> > > >> What good are civil liberties if you are being buried in a mass grave > > >> as a victim of another terrorist attack? Are you going to try to > > >> exercise your freedom of speech from beyond the grave? > > >> > > >> I like Perry - he used to work for me back in the 90's, but he is > > >> wrong about this. > > >> > > >> I know all of the cliches about freedom never being lost all at once, > > >> and societies willing to trade freedom for security deserving neither > > >> and having none (I know I butchered that one - my apologies to the > > >> original author), and all of the other little jabs that liberals are > > >> falling back on right now, but like him or not, there has not been > > >> another attack on our homeland since 09/11. Difficult decisions need > > >> to be made from time to time, and Bush is making them. I think it's > > >> hysterical that most of the loudest of the loudmouths were strangely > > >> silent when Clinton did many of the same things. > > >> > > >> Even with a government that is actively protecting us from these > > >> terrorist scumbags, we in the USA are still the luckiest people on > > >> Earth. We've got it better than any other country on Earth. If you > > >> like some other place better, please feel free to move yourself > > >> there. > > >> > > >> JCP > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
