Echelon???? YAWN... That is old news that is like 10-15 years old and was first announce like 8-10 years ago was it not... Encryption? when it comes time to NSA/CIA/Omega Sector or other unnamed government agencies if they want to decrypt it they can... That is my belief.
Really if we have nothing to hide we should not fear them listening to us. Now if they come in and start forcing a special mark or code word or something special in order to live or buy or sell anything then it is time to revolt. Other wise let them hear you talk to your significant other about some hot sexual adventure, if it is not your significant other maybe it is your best friend and you are going to tell them about how you banged away at this hot chick/guy (male or female for guys/gals and those of the alternative life style (Gay, Homosexual what ever you prefer). IF we really want to sue some good encryption that will take time to break we all have to learn and start using some anchient now dead language. Then once everybody is fluent in that we need to change again just to try and stay one step ahead of the spy devices! -- lhe On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 07:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:04:15 -0800 Bipin Gautam > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >hello list; > > > > > > >My concern is... (I'm from Nepal) not all ISP in my region go > >through > >the Nepal's Internet exchange point. so even the local traffic > >might > >have routed through USA if our ISP'z backbone providr is in USA. I > >don't have very good idea about ledal stuff but my basic > >assumption is > >BUYING SERVICE FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE > >NECESSARILY SUBJECTED TO THEIR LOCAL RULES. (though depends on > >country > >foreign policy) > > > >Have our network traffic been spyed/sniffed too without our > >knowledge? > >Don't we have right of protection in the law to check such thing > if > >any??? > > > >just willing to hear your views on what are the rules to > >check/tackle > >such issues in other foreign countries??? > > > > The gist of the actions by the NSA and the Chimp in Charge should > allow to you ascertain the obvious answer. One, the US government > has no respect for its citizens' privacy so what makes you think it > cares about the privacies of those in other countries. > > One of the problems with the US at this current point in time, is > there is a revolving scenario being spoon fed to the public and > this is being used to justify the actions of the idiots in office. > This is called "The War on Terror". Far too many people are quick > to cower and believe whatever mass media crapaganda is being shown > on television, and while this occurs, those in power jump on the > opportunities to sneak in low blow, sucker punch crimes in hopes > they go unnoticed. It happened with the CIA and their torture > prisons, the Chimp in Charge stepping on civil liberties, you name > it, this administration is doing it. > > So to answer your question, if it passed through any form of > electronic communication, chances are ECHELON got a hold of it. > Don't like it, don't use electronic communications, or use various > types of encryption. Bottom line. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > Version: Hush 2.4 > > wkYEARECAAYFAkOwEHcACgkQo8cxM8/cskr21wCfaDzK6JhSQ9V8+g+pB++NqyPyFKkA > n1IcgHmdLgiwhc9jCW0CwUPsExWc > =26gs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account > required > http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 > > Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail > https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Leif Ericksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
