I say "TAKE THE SECRET SERVER DOWN"!!
I incite mass ping flooding of that ip 127.0.0.1 NOW! Would that stop it, Ivan? Get right on it and let us know the results of your tests. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2006 9:15 AM > To: Dave Korn > Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: According to Ivan,the > secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: > Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] > > > Your quite a piece fo work Dave. The "secret" server is > acutally zonelabs.com, hence the workaround to edit the hosts > file and map that domain to the loopback address. Do you know > how windows hosts file works? No, here is link that may help > you Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts File > http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm > > The work around issued by zonealarm and their response to > this list, is proof enough for me that there was an issue and > probably quite a few other people. But not you Dave, eh? > > On 2/7/06, Dave Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank Knobbe wrote: > > >On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 14:06 +0000, Dave Korn wrote: > > >> >> The company says it will fix the "bug" soon. In the > meantime you > > >> >> can > > >> > work >around it by adding: > > >> >> # Block access to ZoneLabs Server > > >> >> 127.0.0.1 zonelabs.com > > >> >> to your Windows host file. > > > > >> 2) You aren't the first person in the world to mistake the > > >> loopback interface for a routable address, but you do > look just as > > >> dumb as everyone else who's ever done it down the annals of > > >> history. > > > > > >You might want to remove your foot from your own mouth. > The loopback > > >thing is a workaround > > > > I'm perfectly aware of that, but if you had actually read this > > thread you would realise that's not the issue under discussion. > > > > I claimed that Cringely was spreading FUD, because he > hadn't so much > > as shown us a packet trace or an IP address. Ivan told me to "read > > the article again Dave, you'll find that he did provide the > ip address > > of the destination servers to Zonelaram". When I point out to Ivan > > that a) the article was not by Cringely but a second-hand report of > > Cringely's original article, and that b) 127.0.0.1 is not the ip > > address of the destination servers, I am correct, and the fact that > > redirecting a hostname lookup to the loopback address is an > effective > > method of blocking an adbanner does not in any way > contradict anything > > I've said nor confirm anything Ivan said. > > > > Maybe that taste of shoe leather you've noticed is coming > from your > > own mouth? > > > > >You might want to think yourself before assailing other posters > > >verbally. But frankly, I don't care since your email just > qualified > > >you for my plonker list. > > > > That's your choice; if you're happier reading FUD-spreading > > mis-reported nonsense from people who don't even know the loopback > > address when they see it rather than well-informed posts > from people > > who have done their background research and know the field, you're > > going the right way about it. > > > > Of course, you're the ever-so-reasonable guy whose posts > are full of > > emotive and pejorative terms like "presume we're all lusers", "wild > > assumptions", "must be an idiot", "piece of shit", "satisfy > the ego", > > "stop sucking", so I call PKB on you, troll. > > > > >Cheers, > > >Frank > > > > > >PS: zonelabs.com resolves to 208.185.174.44 in case you're still > > >wondering about an IP address. > > > > Your adroitness with nslookup hardly compensates for your > not having > > paid any attention to the actual *content* of the > discussion you wish > > to contribute to. > > > > >PPS: Of course that's not proof of anything. Packet traces > would be > > >preferred, but I'd think anyone with Zone Alarm could > probably gather > > >those easily. > > > > If you'd care to actually look at this thread, you would > have seen > > that that is the main point of my original post. > > > > >(...Why do I even care...) > > > > You clearly don't care enough to read the thread and try > and follow > > the argument you're responding to. I suggest that if you > don't care > > that much, you really shouldn't bother writing a half-baked > response > > that utterly misses the point. > > > > cheers, > > DaveK > > -- > > Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/