On 2/28/06, Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > > Still, the ignorance of Mac users, who believe their platform is somehow > magically "secure" will contribute to the problem. > > Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > University of Texas at Dallas > AVIEN Founding Member > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
I am sorry, Paul, but I have to take you up on this, especially with your tendency of generalizing everything. I have used *nix in the past, for all my network and security tools, until MacOSX presented itself as an opportunity for migration, when I had a need for a new laptop (over two years ago). At that time the 2.6 kernel and available modules weren't up to the tasks of the latest hardware capabilities of x86 laptops, so - on an advice from a friend of mine - I have tried an iBook. I have been able to compile and port all my tools just fine, especially with the help of the underlying "like-BSD" infrastructure (long live fink and Darwin-ports). All I can tell you is that - ever since - I never looked back at other choices (w/the exception of Windows, which was never considered among choices, anyway, due to limitations in cygwin, not talking about the many other obvious reasons for the OS, itself ;)), and have recently got myself the latest still-PPC Powerbook, which just confirmed the rightness of the original migration. As a repository of security and network tools, I have thrown at this baby everything I can possible think of, and still haven't found a way to break it ... ... so the Mac users are not [only] the bunch of idiots/ignorants whom you tend to describe - I would just invite you to attend a blackhat or shmoocon, or even SANS or Cisco networkers, and let me know how many Mac users you can count there ... and then ask yourself why ... but then, again, I may be wrong ;> Stef _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/