On 6/25/06, xyberpix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
N3td3v yep, Valdis and Todd, I'm not too sure I understand why? Could you let me in on your reasoning, afaik Todd has always contributed decent stuff to this list. Just wanna know the reasoning behind your comment, that's all. xyberpix
xberpix, and what have YOU contributed to the list? The n3td3v group see people like you all the time, they just add little comments in here and there to act as cheer leaders. n3td3v and Valdis are some of the most respect hackers behind the scenes and are between the both of them, the most experienced folks in the scene. Don't base your opinion on what we post on full-disclosure, its what goes on behind closed doors is what counts. The FD list is merely a show, a public performance. There is nothing that stands between us both. As for targetting n3td3v especially, do you really think the founder of the n3td3v group is a lamer, they've got over 1000+ hackers and growing, including the big name hackers. As for Todd Towles, he is just a security professional, not a real hacker, he just adds commentry to the list, although, he isn't a blackhat. Time for folks to actually get educated on the people who post to FD, than judge them on pure face value. Most of whats post to FD is just a playground, baited comments, and propaganda. The real work goes on behind the scenes, white hats like n3td3v and Valdis don't publish our real exploits in public, thats why we're easy targets when our ego is so high, and no one can understand why. We don't do self promotion for no reason, you've got to bet its because we've just submitted a major zero-day to a vendor e-mail address. The best hackers don't use fd for a serious purpose, but only to get their "name" out there, and circulated. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/