This is a breathtakingly candid post. for once. thank you!
On 11/17/07, worried security <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2007 11:33 PM, Dan Egerstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you know the powers? Powerrangers? Can they help me? Ohhh please help > me > > ohhh you mighty... > > > > I'm free, kicking and not charged for shit... don't know who you are and > > couldn't care less but it does give something to laugh at =) > > Go play with the other kids now > > > > //D > > At the end of the day you're the dude with the secret service > following you everywhere you go now in real life for at least the next > 6 /12 months or longer I would imagine. > > Enjoy the privacy or not as the case maybe. > > Sleepless nights, looking out your window every five minutes, turning > round in the street seeing if anyones following you and generally not > being able to trust people around you because they might be the secret > service. Not knowing who the next phone call will be from, knowing > everything you do on the internet is being watched by a human, every > keystroke, every e-mail, every draft. > > I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. > > Its paranoia and it destroys you!!! It crushes you, this whole > derangedsecurity.com stuff will crush you mentally if it hasn't > already. I'm talking from experience, i've gone through these phrases > of paranoia, it'll eat you alive. > > Maybe you're not feeling it yet, but it will creep up on you in a short > while. > > Thats the down side to doing big hacks, the mental strain of not > knowing if you've got away with it or not. > > One day you'll wish you hadn't your picture on those news articles and > you hadn't drawn attention to yourself, it may take a few months for > it to kick in if it hasn't already. > > The only reason its not already kicked in if it hasn't is you're > young, guilible and immature, and you're still feeding off the ego > rush of the media attention right now, but later in life it'll hit > you!!! > > You're thinking "i've not been charged for shit". The possibility of a > criminal charge is the least of the problems which comes with fame, > being known by a large amount of people is a bad experience walking > down the street, trying to get employed by people and generally > operating as a normal person in life. > > You wonder all the time "Does he know!, "Do they know". And you get > the people who do know, know everything about you, but you've never > met them in your life before, and it scares you! > > I've been approached by people in real life who know more about me and > what I do online than I do, it ain't nice. > > Strange people start being a part of your life, and you know why, but > its never officially confirmed by anyone. The paranoia and suspicion > destroys you. > > But basically you get the worlds intelligence services following you > around from different countries with different agendas to find out > things about you. > > I imagined at first it would just be one team of survallience from one > country, but you end up having folks from a handful of countries > following you about in everyday life. And those individual > survallience teams aren't connected with each other. You can be > walking down a busy high street with a crowd of folks all around you, > you think are legitimate folks, but they are actually secret service > from multiple countries working independently of each other, who don't > know each other, but they all have one thing in common, they are > following you!!!! > > It sent the shitters up me and it'll do the same to you. > > And you get the folks who have nothing to do with government following > you around, and thats the scarist part. You get independant > investigators following you around from the worlds security companies > who have their own intelligence wings. The big corporations hire folks > to do this, just for the sake of knowing intelligence about you. And > then you just get the normal weirdos following you about who aren't a > part of any government or private investigation company, and thats > what is the worst part. Oh, and the random people who claim to be news > journalists, who could actually be anyone, walking upto you, knocking > at your door, e-mailing etc. You take the first interview, then you > realise, that could of been anyone. It screws you up in the head > afterwards. > > When you become public in the security community, its not the secret > service which are the biggest problems, there are 100's of companies > who follow you about because they want their own intelligence about > you. You see all these websites that offer intelligence, who aren't > the government but offer yahoo,google etc intelligence on folks and > get paid for it, its not just technical intelligence they have, > they've got folks checking up on you in real life too. > > who's gonna be on your tail for a while: > > secret services (world wide) they follow you for national security > reasons to build a real life profile of you. > > security companies (world wide) they follow you to build a real life > profile on you so they know if you're a threat to thier corporate > dot-com customers, so they can best advise corporate security teams in > the future should you become a repeat offender or determine if you're > likely to be and who you meet in real life who might be part of the > whole hacker thing with you. > > news journalists (world wide) they just follow you for the scoop, some > of them announce themselves, others work undercover. > > freelance weirdos (world wide) these are just people who want to > follow you about because they think they have a reason to. > > Enjoy it man, enjoy it. I've been there, send me a postcard won't you > when you get there. ;) You'll be making a whole bunch of new friends > who you think are your actual friends in the near future but they are > all from these places!!!!!! I speak from personal experince this isn't > a kid around, it actually happened to me. The reality and hidden > pitfalls of being a known hacker ain't pretty. > > By being a known hacker, you thrown your privacy away pretty much for > a long while. > > I would rather it was just the secret services following me, than all > the other folks who come attached who want to know everything about > your on and more disturbingly, offline activities. > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- Francesco Vaj [CISSP - GIAC] CSS Security Researcher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: XSS Cross Site ------ XSS Cross Site Scripting Attacks Web 2.0 Application Security Information Blog (tm) 2007 http://www.XSSworm.com/ ------ "Vaj, bella vaj."
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