-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 worried security wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:31 PM, worried security > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [02:40] <worried> do you think cyber terrorism is real or its just the >> government softening ppl up for a couple of false flags for a reason >> to bomb iran? >> [02:49] <worried> the u.s are still deciding where to build the cyber >> command, so don't expect any die hard style false flags till 2009 >> [02:50] <worried> they said their false flag cyber command would be up >> and running by december 2008 >> [02:50] <worried> so they will test out their capabilities probably 2009/10 >> > > Mar 03 22:50:50 <worried> bunch of skript kiddos with DDoS nets... > this is why ppl will stop posting vulnerabilities to mailing lists, so > the enemy can't use it against their countries > Mar 03 22:51:10 <Biff`> huh? > Mar 03 22:53:22 <worried> for instance do you think UK/china/iran > hackers are going to keep posting to mailing lists vulnerabilties jsut > so the script kids at the US cyber command can copy and paste the code > to black out our electricity grids etc? > Mar 03 22:53:25 > <worried> http://www.ktbs.com/news/Ad-promote-Cyber-command-9337/ > Mar 03 22:54:00 <worried> we will stop feeding the mailing lists the > "cyber ammo" so the us cyber command can't attack our countries > Mar 03 22:55:25 <worried> the us cyber command are advertising a cyber > war on news articles, but do they realise what will happen if their is > a cyber war? no will will post to the mailing lists anymore. > Mar 03 22:55:55 <worried> the us government are the biggest dumb asses > who dont think things through > Mar 03 22:56:24 <worried> it will stop new techniques getting > publically disclosed etc > Mar 03 22:56:44 <worried> because nonUS hackers dont want to give the > US gov ideas on how to hack non US countries > Mar 03 22:57:07 <Biff`> we're already in a cyber war. > Mar 03 22:57:23 <worried> so i hope the fucking us gov cyber command > have good security researchers to find their own vulns and techniques > Mar 03 22:57:49 <worried> cos their enemies wont post on the mailign > lsits if cities start getting blacked out by US gov > Mar 03 22:59:07 <Biff`> they do. > Mar 03 22:59:18 <worried> oh have they hired hd moore? > Mar 03 23:00:13 <worried> trust me the us gov rely on whats post to > the mailing lsits as much as everyone else > Mar 03 23:00:31 <female_> we are in a cyber war? sheeeesh last night > we were in a trojan war > Mar 03 23:00:35 <worried> and if they start attacking other nations > when the cyber command is built > Mar 03 23:00:49 <worried> then non-us hackers will stop posting > to mailing lsits > Mar 03 23:01:06 <worried> then the whole security community will fuck up > Mar 03 23:01:23 <Biff`> the cyber command is nothing new. > Mar 03 23:01:31 <worried> it is > Mar 03 23:01:34 <Biff`> It is just a structural reorganization. > Mar 03 23:01:41 <worried> its more than that > Mar 03 23:01:55 <worried> this is about attacking nations > Mar 03 23:01:59 <Biff`> you actually think that everything they are > advertising isn't going on already? > Mar 03 23:02:31 <worried> not on a big a scale as their planning > Mar 03 23:02:53 <worried> 60,000+ cyber command staff in a purpose > built cyber battle center > Mar 03 23:03:53 <worried> these dorks will bring the end to the > security community as we know it the dumb asses > Mar 03 23:04:17 <worried> nothing will get publically disclosed if > real cyber war breaks out > Mar 03 23:06:06 <Biff`> it's not going to be as big as you think. > Mar 03 23:06:24 <Biff`> It's going to put a lot of existing jobs and > stations under a central command. > Mar 03 23:07:20 <female_> a strategic command? > Mar 03 23:07:57 <Biff`> yes.. US Strategic Command will be in the mix > somewhere. > Mar 03 23:15:50 <worried> how many real hackers out of the hundreds of > script kids will they hire > Mar 03 23:16:13 <worried> there aint that many "elite" hackers out there > Mar 03 23:16:28 <Biff`> that's where defense contractors come in. > Mar 03 23:20:24 <worried> what do you mean > Mar 03 23:23:00 <Biff`> a lot of talent consults for the government. > Mar 03 23:23:30 <worried> a chinese defence contractor is going to > give hackers to us so the us can black out chinese infrastructure when > us get angry with china? > Mar 03 23:24:11 <Biff`> there are plenty of chinese foreign nationals > working for the US government. > Mar 03 23:29:36 <Biff`> I'm off to bed. Goodnight. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
I just want to know, since you are (supposedly) an informant to all the US gov domains, how you don't have a clue as to the capabilities of any country with hackers, disassemblers and people in general that strive to find vulnerabilities in software? Same sh*t, same 'King of Ridiculous'. What do you know about finding vulnerabilities, by the way? Yeah, I ended my sentence with a preposition. Regards, Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHzjCZs+9h2X0fCGcRAlsQAJ4jzBdQnixeNmONMsWNZLbwZvxnWwCfbzHw Vk4iRfmmuf81XF0Ux8iKZzQ= =3xcU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/