Google job vented I wonder if netdev feels the same way :)- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: "Ven Ted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:24:12 To:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Web Application Security Awareness Day [introduction] v3nt3d is deeply sad at the new trend of morally accepted blackmail by researchers, known better as a web application security awareness day. sincere researchers are coming forward more frequently to threaten companies with a web application security awareness day. because they are known to be sincere they are morally left off the hook from what is known by v3nt3d to be straight forward blackmail. blackmail is illegal, for this reason v3nt3d wishes to make the following recommendations: [1]web application security awareness day campaigns are blackmail on the part of the researcher, all should be outlawed by government. [2]v3nt3d calls on the government to make it highly illegal and morally unacceptable to threaten a web application security awareness day for a vendor and its customers [3]security researchers think its "fun" but all it amounts to is blackmail [4]all blackmail attempts shouldn't be dressed up as harmless fun [5]governments need to wake up and swiftly arrest those making web application security awareness day claims in the future [6]corporations and its consumers shouldn't be scared mongered and threatened by individuals [7]researchers shouldn't use their real name or real place of employment and expect exclusion from legal action against blackmail [8]researchers shouldn't be allowed to profit or gain career opportunities by such claims to action by the researcher [9]researchers should be taken into custody, questioned and have their hardware obtained for forensic analysis before a web application security awareness day is due to start [10]individuals threatening to carry out a web application security awareness day shouldn't be labelled as "security researchers" by the media and security experts [11]such individuals should be clearly labelled as "criminals", "malicious attackers" and "blackhats", no matter what other "friendly" or "useful" research they've carried out in the past. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
