They generally don't have any clue what they want. This is only a PR stunt On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:30 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bad idea, > > The rogue government would use hospitals and power stations, to "cyber > human shield" against the counter attack. > > You guys are living in cloud cuckoo land. The rogue government > wouldn't have their bot nets in home computers that you could shut > down easily. > > Read my rant about it all with the link below that I typed in May 2008 > to stop the "Afcyber" idea going through. > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-May/062517.html > > All the best, > > n3td3v > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tony Patti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM > Subject: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system > (Einstein 3.0) > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I presume this CNN article falls within the "Internet operational and > technical issues" (especially security) criteria of the NANOG AUP, > in terms of "operat[ing] an Internet connected network", > especially where Chertoff refers to " like an anti-aircraft weapon, > shoot down an [Internet] attack before it hits its target". > > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/04/chertoff.cyber.security/index.html > > Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- First, there was "Einstein," the federal > government's effort to protect itself from cyber attacks by limiting > the number of portals to government computer systems and searching for > signs of cyber tampering. > > Then Einstein 2.0, a system now being tested to detect computer > intrusions as they happen. > > And in the future? Perhaps Einstein 3.0, which would give the > government the ability to fight back. > > Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Friday said he'd like > to see a government computer infrastructure that could look for early > indications of computer skullduggery and stop it before it happens. > > The system "would literally, like an anti-aircraft weapon, shoot down > an attack before it hits its target," he said. "And that's what we > call Einstein 3.0." > > At a meeting with reporters to highlight National Cyber Security > Month, Chertoff reiterated his belief that the government should > aggressively defend its computer systems, saying that terrorists, if > they gain expertise already available to others, would "cause > potentially very serious havoc" to government systems. > > "Let's make the investment now rather than wait until there's a huge > catastrophe," he said. > > But despite his emphasis on the risks posed, Chertoff said the > government is moving slowly to avoid stepping on the toes of the > private sector as it addresses calls to reorganize the governance of > cyberspace to provide accountability and authority. > > "I think the question of what is the government's role in cyberspace > in general needs to be discussed among all the stakeholders, because > there is a culture of cyberspace that is an open architecture," he > said. "And I think if we just came in and said we want to take it > over, there'd be, understandably, a considerable amount of discomfort > with that." > > "We are deliberately going slowly because we recognize that the issue > of government involvement in the Internet is fraught with all kinds of > potential concerns and potential anxieties about not having the > government have a big-foot impact on an area of communication and > commerce that has traditionally been viewed as really independent and > free." > > Chertoff said the government is "feeling our way to what is the right > mix of government involvement with protecting the Internet in the > private domain while preserving everybody's comfort level that we're > not going to be in their business in a way that would be > inappropriate." > > Asked if he envisioned a world with two cyberspaces, he said he > envisions a world with "a lot of different levels of security and > trust, depending upon the nature of what it is that you're doing." > > "We already have that now, in the sense that we have classified > systems which are walled off from unclassified systems," he said. > The Bush administration released its National Cyber Security > Initiative in January. The "most immediate component" of it from the > Department of Homeland Security's perspective, Chertoff said, is to > increase security for federal government computer systems. > > But another priority is to work with the private sector to address > threats to businesses. This includes not only protection from hackers, > but also from counterfeit parts, which an individual or another nation > could use to create vulnerabilities in the United States, he said. > E-mail to a friend > > > Tony Patti > CIO > S. Walter Packaging Corp. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com/
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