Nobody on the list wants YOU so I don't see how you can justify what people want to see as your argument for not retaliating.
Ill fuck you 'til you love me, faggot. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why should i respond to your off-topic personal jabs? all it would do > is start a flame war and im not into that. im performing self control > and restraint by not responding to your personal jabs, nobody on the > list wants a flame war based on personal jabs, so im not going to feed > it. im reading everything you say, im not ignoring it. if you choose > to be against me and not with me is your choice that you make, there > is nothing else for me to add on the topic. > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Biz Marqee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I could care less about metasploit, all it does is help the kiddies.. but > > that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Software is knowledge and > knowledge > > should be free, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that you are > a > > bullshitting drug abuser who's child like demeanor wont allow him to even > > acknowledge bad things written about him. You are performing the internet > > equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "nana i cant > > hear you" in an attempt to make the situation go away. > > > > So you unknowledgable, untalented, unemployed junkie.. do you have > anything > > relevant to what I asked to contribute or are you going to just ignore it > > like the pussy that you are? > > > > Also, dont try and portray yourself like a free thinking martyr... your > > opinions are just rehashed idea sparked off cnet news comments and > various > > other sources of "security information". Anyone who knows even the > slightest > > thing about information security knows you and your idealist views are a > > joke. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:46 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> you seem like an hd moore/metasploit fan boy pissed off that i don't > >> respect him or like his metasploit software. n3td3v doesn't respect > >> people like the sheep do, i think for myself, have opinions about > >> other white hats that may not be in support of them. get used to it > >> bozo. > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Biz Marqee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > Acting like the child that he is, n3td3v continues to ignore questions > >> > posed > >> > to him. How can he be such an avid debater over the legality of things > >> > like > >> > metasploit, 0day auctions and similarly themed bullshit threads when > he > >> > completely disregards drug laws? How do you intend to lobby people to > >> > listen > >> > to you when you are not a law abiding citizen yourself? You have no > >> > credibility in the eyes of the law, so don't psuedo threaten people > >> > trying > >> > to appear like you have some government backing. You have proven > beyond > >> > doubt that you dont, because the government doesnt listen to drug > taking > >> > internet heroes, such as yourself. > >> > > >> > So enough with the bullshit.. FUCK OFF AND DIE. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by > >> >> what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure > >> >> anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way, > >> >> i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned > >> >> about your health. cheers. > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets > get > >> >> > that out of the way right there. > >> >> > > >> >> > second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go > to > >> >> > some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day > >> >> > period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish. then > compare > >> >> > and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24 > >> >> > hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to > >> >> > do > >> >> > bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the > >> >> > patches. then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs, > >> >> > write > >> >> > a whitepaper, and present it somewhere. > >> >> > > >> >> > u know what thats called? research. real ppl do it. > >> >> > > >> >> > u dont. and that is why, u suck. ta ta. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> >> so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be > >> >> >> helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest > hackers > >> >> >> could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't > >> >> >> logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that > >> >> >> we > >> >> >> were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v > >> >> >> isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start > >> >> >> isn't > >> >> >> a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10 > >> >> >> years > >> >> >> of my life to not be logical... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad > >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want > to, > >> >> >>> it's not > >> >> >>> for that your point will be valuable. > >> >> >>> And actually it is not, also this is about logic. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> See you're wrong again. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Get the fuck out of here. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> 2008/11/6, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no > >> >> >>>> experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is > >> >> >>>> correct. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>> > Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because > >> >> >>>> > you > >> >> >>>> > have > >> >> >>>> > all > >> >> >>>> > these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your > >> >> >>>> > ideas > >> >> >>>> > only > >> >> >>>> > make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality > >> >> >>>> > most > >> >> >>>> > will > >> >> >>>> > fail. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >> >>>> > wrote: > >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore > the > >> >> >>>> >> negative responses i get. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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