On Friday 28 August 2009 08:29:48 Thor (Hammer of God) wrote: > Maybe I'm not saying it properly... (and I won't belabor the point > anymore). If you want a password instead of a click, then set it to > "prompt for credentials" rather than "prompt for consent" for > *administrators*.
Understood. I also understand you can set up Vista to use normal users. My objection is to Microsoft's default behavior. > > We basically agree on the main point: Separate user and administrator > > accounts are better. I wonder if Micosoft will start enforcing that? > > The "wonder if MSFT will start enforcing that" is already answered - they > do, and HAVE been. Even with XP you could "run as administrator." I used > to do it all the time. I actually like the UAC in Vista/Win7 better as it > gives seamless admin capabilities while interactively logged on as a normal > user. There is a difference between being able to do something, and enforcing it. The OS on my machines will not allow a person to run an administrative desktop. It enforces the separation between the administrator and a normal user by requiring the creation of at least one normal user at install. Only that normal user can log in. Microsoft encourages the opposite behavior by default. I know of no Vista home user who runs as a normal user. I guess it's good we had this conversation; I got to meet someone who sets up Windows properly on his personal machines. ;) -- Hawaiian Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org HAS Deepsky Atlas: http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/