On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People are unreasonable, first they complain about
> lack of quick patches/fixes. Next they complain about
> fixes crashing their system.
You're right - Corporate America needs to find more folks willing to
accept unpatched software that crashes their system. Its hard to
justify big bonuses when a company is run into the ground (wait - no
its not. Disregard.)

> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Dan Kaminsky <d...@doxpara.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Michal Zalewski <lcam...@coredump.cx>
>> wrote:
>> >> Testing takes time.  That's why both Microsoft and Mozilla test.
>> >
>> > Testing almost never legitimately takes months or years, unless the
>> > process is severely broken; contrary to the popular claims,
>> > personally, I have serious doubts that QA is a major bottleneck when
>> > it comes to security response - certainly not as often as portrayed.
>>
>> There are a lot of factors that go into how long it takes to run QA.
>> Here's a few (I'll leave out the joys of multivendor for now):
>>
>> [SNIP]

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