I agree. I am only talking of the scenario where this service is pre-installed.
But before it was all about 3rd party addons wich run as a service... it is not happening, i can tell u this from many yrs of exp with windows, it wont happen. MS will not rewrite sdks,ddks,its whole stdafx/msdn architecture for coding, because of 3rd party addons.. cheers. xd On 26 September 2011 11:41, Madhur Ahuja <ahuja.mad...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree. I am only talking of the scenario where this service is > pre-installed. > > > On Monday, September 26, 2011, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote: > >> You'd have to be admin to install as a service, and the service would >> obviously need to then be running as local system to be of benefit (beyond >> what a normal user could do anyway) AND the installer would have to grant a >> normal user rights to overwrite it. >> >> Certainly possible, but the developer would have to go out of their way >> to screw that up. And if they did, it still wouldn't be because of the OS... >> >> T >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> GloW: there's a lot of 3rd party software that installs itself as >> windows services. >> >> -Travis >> >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM, GloW - XD <doo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Haha , too good and too true thor ! >> >> >> Maybe he can trick the user into installing on a FAT32 partition first, >> and THEN get the to execute from a remote share! >> >> Rofl x10. >> >> Agreed , this kind of attack, is NOT deasible in 2011, try maybe, 2006. >> >> Anyhow it has been a pleasure, ending this BS i think once and for all, >> lookup how winlogon works for one thing, then look at how windows creates >> and maintains a service_table, and then at the dlls, wich are protected ofc, >> you cannot touch msgina.dll,without ALOT of help from a rootkit or something >> similar, in wich case, why would you need to ? >> You could add an admin, hidden, and in simple batfile script (yes i do >> have my own code but no it is not for kids..), this is 10seconds and hidden, >> so when you have gotten that far, why would you bother to hijack a dll ? >> >> You CANNOT do crap,without complete ADMIN not SYSTEm, ADMIN$ share, and >> total axcs to all sockets, meaning, all pipe control and thats where half of >> windows exchanges smb shares for one thing, you guys dont seem to know CRAP >> about windows to start with, then have the gall to raise such a frigging >> ridiculous topic about a non happening, YOUTUBE ONE 'real' event, of this >> being useful, or, even just working, and i would look but, you wont, cannot, >> and will never be able to, especially on newer systems of windows7-8. >> As i said earlier, enjoy your bs DFLL hijacking, but ms, dont care for it, >> and whatever patches they instilled, dont touch even service_table.. so, >> they have not given it a high prio,and why shuld they. >> >> This is simply a case of a secteam gaining notoriety, to try and make this >> a 'big bug!!' , to try and gain brownie points from MS. Even tho, i dont >> believe in many things MS, I know windows system, and how to break it, >> better than many people, and i can tell you now, this whole DLL hijack, is a >> complete and utter waste of your times. >> But... keep on going, maybe MS will send you another 'thankyou' email ;) >> xd / <http://crazycoders.com>crazycoders.com / #haxnet@Ef >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 September 2011 10:52, Thor (Hammer of God) <t...@hammerofgod.com>wrote: >> >> Maybe he can trick the user into installing on a FAT32 partition first, >> and THEN get the to execute from a remote share! >> >> On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:30 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It might be a fun experiment to see what DLLs they're looking for :.) >> >> >> -Travis >> >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> To replace a service executable you usually need administrator access >> anyway. >> >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Madhur Ahuja >> Sender: >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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