On 1/27/2012 12:06 PM, Michael Schmidt wrote: > > You want to be very careful with that line of thought. You are taking > the creator the rightful owners profits, which they are entitled to if > it is a product they created to be sold. You are confusing what you > want -- with what the law states. Theft is typically very widely > defined in the law, not just what the dictionary states. > > > > When you make a copy, you are performing a step that the manufacturer > takes with physical products. Just because copying software is easy > does not mean the laws are so cut and dried around what is theft and > what is not. If you take something by making yourself a copy, when the > producer is the only authorized authority to make copies then you have > committed theft. > > > > You also cannot steal electricity, check out "Abstracting > Electricity", but bypassing the meter is wrong in most jurisdictions. > > > > In the US you can be arrested and charged for riding in a stolen car, > even if you really didn't know it was stolen, known as "taking without > consent" or TWOC. > > > > In some jurisdictions you can be arrested and charged for "going > equipped for burglary" mean you have implements of the trade on you -- > crowbars, lock picks etc. So I suppose in the US we are fortunate that > having a copy of some previously defined hacking tools on a computer > in our possession will not get us arrested -- yet. > > > > The more you know... > > > > > > *From:*full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk > [mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Laurelai > *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 12:51 AM > *To:* full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk > *Subject:* Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become > expression of freedom > > > > On 1/27/2012 2:24 AM, Jerry dePriest wrote: > > im going to the 'benz dealer in the morning to express my 1st > amendment right... > > > > The Somalians are learning the hard way that it just isnt so... > > > > bma > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > Piracy: an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea > > Theft: the illegal taking of another person's property without that > person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful > owner of it > > Software copying: Occurs neither on the high seas and does not deprive > the rightful owner of it. > > > The more you know. > Yeah and the US is becoming a police state, so using US law as examples of morality is pretty shaky ground.
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