Hi! > My impression is that until the > vendors stepup up to the plate with a better commitment to responsible > reselase of products, they will find that the research community continues > to eye them with focused suspicion and outrght cynical spite.
Well, why should vendors do that? In fact, if you look at Microsoft's profit, I would say it is rewarded for not doing this. Vendors simply supply the kind of products people want. Aparently people love insecure programs. So that is what they get. The only way to change that is either vote with your dollars and euros or to take the vendor to court and demand compensation for the damanges caused by badly designed or buggy software. Neither really happens, so what incentive is there for companies to change? Groetjes, Peter Busser -- The Adamantix Project Taking trustworthy software out of the labs, and into the real world http://www.adamantix.org/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html