You all focus on a worms potential for destruction too much. What about threats that affect the real world. For instance Theft of data on a massive scale. We've already seen worms That do this. Or worse DDOS networks that can be uses as weapons Against foreign governments or even our own to disrupt or confuse. I think wiping the HDD of machine is probably too overt and furthermore Rather pointless as it will make it that much harder for the worm to spread Once the damage is done. For instance if the machine reboots, the OS will Fail to boot and the worm will fail to go on another run. I'd start looking More towards the "blended threat" as Symantec seems to put it. And more Advanced tools allowing people to create worms without much technical knowledge. There are a few already out there, I'm certain this will Only get worse.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yossarian Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re:::::: [Full-Disclosure] future happenings.. Well, basically, any OS on any platform will be vulnerable when people don't upgrade - when people care to write a virus or worm for it. Thats why MS is affected - why code for the few BeOS users? They might all three be on holiday and the worm might dud. At least we'll have enough bandwidth then. Kidding aside - worse worms can be made, and probably will be. It is an arms race. Technically much worse is possible. Whiping HDD is one thing, set track0=bad or reprogramming parts of standard hardware might be worse - like going after a pentium4 processor or the BIOS. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re:::::: [Full-Disclosure] future happenings.. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Just reading through how easily this worm (RPC/DCOM/MSBlast) is spreading, > > > and how widespread it is, and the potential number of infected systems > - - do > > some of you lot think its feasible that sometime in the future someone > will > > release a worm that DOES completely wipe the hard disks or do something > > equally nasty to its host AFTER sending itself on to 'x' recipients? > > > Let us hope so as it will be the only way the people will ever learn > to stop purchasing this product. Corps and individuals alike will finally > see through the charade of this company's code. The purchasing decision > makers at Corps have far too long enjoyed the silent kickbacks, the las > vegas hooker runs financed by the weasel sales teams of the company that > churns out this code. The hoodwinking of the IT dept. shall come to > an end, when the likes of senior management and even the CEO at the top, > all can no longer find that kiddie porn they downloaded for their daily > wank just the other day. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > Version: Hush 2.3 > > wkYEARECAAYFAj85OWgACgkQTAj0ZSCgbx7boACfarwZKw0vgSe6B4FYKXb6IeDAa0IA > n0epylY7zc/aL5hbj8j0BYiLMTkN > =vcaQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get > FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 > > Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger > https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434 > > Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: > https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427 > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html