On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:38:49 -0600 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, January 16, 2004 4:14 AM +0100 Erik van Straten > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip] > > Nope. It translates to not needing simple PFW's -for ingress traffic- > > if there are no listening ports. Flaws shouldn't have been there in the > > first place, and any found should be fixed ASAP%001. > > > Well, hell, let's ban iptables, ipfw, pf, ipchains, et. al. from > "workstation" installs of *nix. After all, *nix is secure out of the box, > right? And PFW's just give people a false sense of security anyway, right? [snip] > > With ABS you can drive much closer to the car in > > front of you. With AV and a PFW people tend to believe it is safe to > > run any exe (or hta). Marketing helps making people believe this. > > > I have to agree with you here. It's been made obvious to me by the posts > today in this thread. Explain this contradiction in your rant and we may talk _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
