HAHHHAHAH --snip-- > Business on the other hand is moving slowly to Linux. Why slowly? > Who do you sue when your business is hacked by someone who planted a > backdoor in the Linux kernel? Won't happen you say? Let's see, > almost happened once already . . . --snip--
Oh please ... did you read the wed site or did a friendly who knows how to read explain it. The site says a public DB that offers TEST and BETA kernels was attacked. It also says that the intrusion was caught which would suggest that this was a unsuccessful attack. I like how you point out one unsuccessful attack on linux but leave out thousands of successful working and money costing Microsoft windows problems. Michael. On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:47:44 -0500 "James Patterson Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Microsoft has competition. Apple, Sun, Red Hat . . . > > Problem is Apple is full of idiots who feature style over substance. > The system has to look better than it performs. They want people to > pay a premium to make it seem that their products are for the elite > only. The OS is more stable than Microsoft, but their elitist attitude > will always keep them at 5% market share. > > Sun's Java should be the market leader, but they don't have the cash > to take on the 800 pound gorilla that is Microsoft. Java is on > running Spirit, the rover that is on Mars right now. Imagine if > Spirit had a Microsoft OS running it. Right after touchdown on Mars, > you see the first image of the landscape and then . . . . BLUE SCREEN > OF DEATH!! Sorry, but the guy from the Help Desk can't just stop by > and reboot it this time. Even NASA is not crazy enough to trust a > billion dollar project to a Microsoft OS. > > Linux is just not ready for prime time. By prime time I mean on the > homes of the American public. Regular home consumers don't want to > have to learn a new language to use e-mail or play games. They want > to be able to update a security hole without having to compile > something. Linux needs an interface like OS X and a software library > to back it for"normal" people to be interested. > > Business on the other hand is moving slowly to Linux. Why slowly? > Who do you sue when your business is hacked by someone who planted a > backdoor in the Linux kernel? Won't happen you say? Let's see, > almost happened once already . . . > > Linux kernel suffers Trojan horse hack - > http://www.silicon.com/software/os/0,39024651,39116796,00.htm > > Microsoft threw an incomplete, insecure computer solution at an eager > market for a low price, so home users and businesses lapped it up. > Ever since Windows 95, home computing and Microsoft are nearly joined > at the hip. It will take time to break Microsoft's nine-year hold, > but it's going to take more than OS X and the current Linux offerings > to do it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward W. > Ray > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:38 PM > To: 'Mary Landesman'; 'David F. Skoll'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Anti-MS drivel > > Mary: > > Cisco at least has competition. Juniper Networks has about a 25% > share of > the router market, which keeps Cisco honest. Microsoft has almost > market > penetration at the desktop for both the home and business. IMHO, they > deserve all the anti-MS drivel people can dish out. I will tire of it > when > I don't have to spend an hour each month clearing my firewall logs of > attempted Code Red and Nimda infection attempts > > Edward W. Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary > Landesman > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:55 AM > To: David F. Skoll; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall > Day, help > the cause > > That's pretty much like teaching your kids to never talk to strangers, > or > never visit the "bad" part of town. Fact is, most crimes are committed > by > people we know. Microsoft is often victimized, mainly because they are > so > ubiquitous. Cisco is running a poll right now to see which of the 17 > critical patches are most important to users, because they only have > the manpower to fix 10 of them. Should we all stop using Cisco > products? > > This anti-MS drivel is so tiresome. > > -- Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:06 PM > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, > help the > cause > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall > Day. > > http://www.personalfirewallday.org/ > > That Web site is utterly disingenuous. Rather than giving low-value > information, how about high-value information that actually protects > people: > > 1) Don't use Windows. > 2) Don't use Outlook. > > Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have > a firewall, we do not use anti-virus software. > > Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of > anti-virus vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to > actually create a secure computing environment. > > Regards, > > David. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > This e-mail is the property of Oxygen Media, LLC. 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