I think you should remember that you don't pay for an apache license and ofcourse that 
apache's code is there for you to read it and research on it.    I agree with you that 
an app thats is not up to date will fuck up sooner or later, However the issue here is 
that microsoft bills you for licensing, don't allow you to read the code, release 
service packs that fuck up half of their users operating systems and in addition to 
all this they count with something that is even more damaging, "most of their users 
trust"... when that small icon shows up next to the clock and tells you that updates 
are ready to install, do you ever wonder wether that patch could fuck your entire 
OS..., i dont think a normal home user would. Have you consider that not everyone in 
the world knows how to reinstall an OS? well, perhaps lots of people with not so many 
resources will have to pay someone to reinstall their computers OS because microsoft 
sent out a patch that wasn't properly working. 

They are disrespecting their customers when they do this kind of shit, and if you are 
paying for something and they release buggy service packs (which are not hotfixes but 
mayor stuff)ofcourse you have the right to tell everyone that they SUCK BIG TIME!. 

They should at least verify that their patches don't break their own products.


Regards

Rodrigo.-


Niek Baakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  :

> MS web server full of damn holes? What about apache ?
> What do you think would happen if you do not update your apache for a year,
> or openssh, or any piece of software ?
> What do you think would happen if you did not apply those MaxOSX updates
> which Apple released over the past few months?
> Don't talk about releaking and only mention Microsoft.
> There are opensource programs which have the same track record.
> 
> All comes down to staying up-to-date, and patch.
> 
>  > Beside, the unix based permissions system has proven far superior, ask
> 
> I'd say NTFS is pretty advanced too. In some ways it is better.
> 
>  > apple. Still shameful that the default XP install, in 2004, at these
>  > malware times, still logs you as an administrator . Would you feel safe
>  > using ur *nix box as root everyday ? I wouldn't.
> 
> XP install asks for an administrator password, *and* to add one, or more normal
> 
> users. I see the same behavior in some Linux distributions. (e.g. slackware
> does 
> not ask you to create a user account during install).
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Niek Baakman
> 
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