And, of course, "everyone knows" (c) that jail is the best place to put a criminal so that way he can make up the damage he/she did and then rehabilitate him/herself.
The skills learned in jail help the rehabilitation and the recidivism rate of previous offenders is very low of course. :-) As to the murder rate in the UK, you had better also factor in the rate of increase after the ban on guns. ie: What was the rate BEFORE the ban? Just give the criminals a bit more time to import more guns. Same thing happened in Australia after their gun ban. Basic flaw - what right does anyone have to take away the right to protect yourself? Are firewalls next to be banned? -- Sincerely, Daniel H. Renner President Los Angeles Computerhelp A division of Computerhelp, Inc. 818-352-8700 http://losangelescomputerhelp.com "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' Thomas Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:55:31 -0500 > From: "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > To: <funsec@linuxbox.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The murder rate in the U.K. is about 5 times lower than the U.S.: > > > > http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/us-and-uk-murder-rate-and-weapo > n/ > > In the UK (population c. 60.5m) there were 765 reported incidents of murder > for 2005-6 (Home Office, undated) - a rate of about 1.1 per 100,000. > > In the US (population c. 298.5m) there were an estimated 16,137 homicides in > 2004 (FBI, 2006a) - a rate of about 5.4 per 100,000. Of these, 10,654 were > carried out with guns (FBI, 2006b). > > The murder rate in the U.S. has dropped a good bit in the '90s because we > are putting more people in prison. In fact, the U.S. has the largest prison > population on the planet. > > Richard > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:07 PM > To: Imri Goldberg; funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject: Re: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > Since banning guns didn't stop the increase in violent crime, nor universal > surveillance, more removing the rights of the law abiding must be the > solution, right? > > What happened to the fundamental principle in Common Law that no freeman may > be debarred the use of arms? > > The framers of the US Constitution could see the writing on the wall after > the Restoration, hence they made sure that our pre-existing rights were > fully codified. > > And don't tell me this isn't about security. Physical security, the right, > which without the means is meaningless, to defend your life, liberty and > property, is the basis of all other rights. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
