More effectively than the one who picks up a meatcleaver in the UK. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drsolly > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:02 PM > To: Richard M. Smith > Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject: Re: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > No wonder you want the right to bear arms, in the USA. How > else are you going to defend yourself from the family member > who loses their temper and picks up a handy gun? > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Richard M. Smith wrote: > > > The murder rate in the U.K. is about 5 times lower than the U.S.: > > > > > > > > > http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/us-and-uk-murder-rate-and > > -weapo > > n/ > > > > In the UK (population c. 60.5m) there were 765 reported > incidents of > > murder for 2005-6 (Home Office, undated) - a rate of about > 1.1 per 100,000. > > > > In the US (population c. 298.5m) there were an estimated 16,137 > > homicides in > > 2004 (FBI, 2006a) - a rate of about 5.4 per 100,000. Of > these, 10,654 > > were carried out with guns (FBI, 2006b). > > > > The murder rate in the U.S. has dropped a good bit in the > '90s because > > we are putting more people in prison. In fact, the U.S. has the > > largest prison population on the planet. > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:07 PM > > To: Imri Goldberg; funsec@linuxbox.org > > Subject: Re: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > > > > > > > Since banning guns didn't stop the increase in violent crime, nor > > universal surveillance, more removing the rights of the law abiding > > must be the solution, right? > > > > > > > > What happened to the fundamental principle in Common Law that no > > freeman may be debarred the use of arms? > > > > > > > > The framers of the US Constitution could see the writing on > the wall > > after the Restoration, hence they made sure that our pre-existing > > rights were fully codified. > > > > > > > > And don't tell me this isn't about security. Physical security, the > > right, which without the means is meaningless, to defend your life, > > liberty and property, is the basis of all other rights. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Imri Goldberg > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:15 AM > > To: funsec@linuxbox.org > > Subject: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > > > For Brian Loe and Drsolly: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7508404.stm > > > > "Most fatal stabbings involve a weapon that is easy to obtain and > > sharp with it - a kitchen knife. Would stopping the sale of long > > blades with sharp points help save lives?" > > > > I think it's even more funny when you consider the fact > that it's in the UK. > > > > Cheers > > Imri > > > > (hat tip to Alisa > > > <http://alisainwonderland.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/%D7%AA%D7%A2%D7%A6% > > D7%A8% > > > D7%95-%D7%90%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%9D-%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%99-% > > D7%A8% D7%95%D7%A6%D7%94stop-the-world-i-want-to/> for the link.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >
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