On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Gregory Hicks wrote:

> 
> > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:52:29 -0700
> > From: Blue Boar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile 
> Phones
> > 
> > We haven't exercised all the options yet.
> 
> This is true.  However
> 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
> jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> 
> I'm not sure that the ammo box CAN be used in the UK.  Or in Australia.

Or in the USA, actually. They don't allow US subjects to own any 
substantial weaponry, only popguns.
 
> Regards,
> Gregory Hicks
> 
> > 
> >                             BB
> > 
> > Drsolly wrote:
> > > Didn't work though, did it.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Hence the reason the founders of the US, Englishmen all until the
> > >> Declaration of Independence, felt the need to explicitly declare 
> the
> > >> rights of man, and limit those of government.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Peter Evans
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:55 PM
> > >>> To: funsec@linuxbox.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile 
> Phones
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:08:37AM -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> > >>>> Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register 
> their
> > >>>> identity on a national database under government plans to extend
> > >>> massively
> > >>>> the powers of state surveillance.
> > >>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece
> > >>>> This is perhaps the craziest f'ing thing I have ever heard of...
> > >>>         1984
> > >>>
> > >>>         Because this is British Government, you're lucky it's only a
> > >>> quarter of
> > >>>         a century late.
> > >>>
> > >>>         Not quite up to "Brazil" yet.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>         P
> > >>>
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