My mistake. This is not in fact legislation proper: "The internet industry's voluntary code of conduct is being pushed by the federal Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.
The department has told a parliamentary inquiry into cyber-crime that the voluntary code is faster than introducing legislation." I wonder how many will actually sign-on to this? On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Benjamin Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah but the caveat here is that it is a federal mandate brought down on the > ISPs leaving them without the option to back down. I am interested in seeing > just how the government will choose to enforce/enact such wide-sweeping > legislation. > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Dave Dennis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Raef >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > >> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/25/1458231/Australian-ISPs-To-Disconnect-Botnet-Zombies?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 >> > > Please share your thoughts. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thomas J. Raef >> > > >> >> The usual mess of uninformed, speculative, hearsay and panic on /. >> >> So. >> >> If the IsP is doing captive portal surfing and attempting to provide >> malware >> detection/cleaning tools, they have a noble purpose, but could run into >> interesting legal liability if the idiot home user managed to screw the >> pooch >> and make an unbootable system as a result. The logic in the captive >> portal >> would possibly need to be bright enough to handle every besotted version >> of >> Windows from 95 to present, with all interop of old applications accounted >> for >> or at least not a concern. Thats a tall ask. So once they start breaking >> heretofore "not broken" (as far as the home user is concerned) systems, >> then >> what ? Its easily provable the home user PC was infected due to >> traffic/signature/activity logged, but thats not going to mean anything to >> the >> home user if he/she can't boot up and play mafia wars. >> >> I think fwiw this is usually where the conversation breaks down in the USA >> on >> this subject: To do the home fix the infected PC dance actually takes a >> little >> bit more than just malware removal: it takes behavior modification, it >> takes >> browser locking down / ad network blocking, it takes somehow coming up >> with a >> fix to years of really poor decisions on the part of the user, who >> presumably is >> running an old, unpatched, botched registry full of half-uninstalled >> malware and >> spyware and various apps, any of which may or may not be able to withstand >> a >> thorough clean/replace of some fairly important DLL. >> >> So you get them to sign off on this, but their PC is mangled (to them) >> afterwards, now what. Customer support beat down, loads of posts to >> various >> dumbass consumer sites like Consumerist, "My ISP Broke My Computer" and >> various >> crying youtubes later, and will the ISP have the balls to stick to their >> guns? >> >> Or will they back down and cave in? >> >> I don't see how they can avoid caving in. Most users are monumentally >> uninformed with regard to spyware / malware, their own risk averse >> behavior, and >> what even happened a week ago on the same PC. >> >> >> My .02 >> >> -Dave D >> >> >> >> +------------------------- >> + Dave Dennis >> + Seattle, WA >> + Speakeasy, Inc. >> + [email protected] >> + http://www.speakeasy.net >> +------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >> > >
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