Oh come on Dan, let me live in my fantasy, you know, the one where it all works out in the end...
J On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Dan Kaminsky <d...@doxpara.com> wrote: > Hahahahahahahaha > > > > On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Joel Esler <esl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Flash is dead. HTML5 will render it obsolete. Heck, you can even use > youtube via html5 now and it's far superior. > > <http://www.youtube.com/html5>www.youtube.com/html5 > > J > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Alex Eckelberry <<al...@sunbelt-software.com> > al...@sunbelt-software.com> wrote: > >> I agree with your points. >> >> >> >> I’m not an Apple guy (at all). >> >> >> >> But I’m dammed impressed with this Ipad. >> >> >> >> (Yeah, the Flash things sucks, but whatever, it’s what it is.) >> >> >> >> >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* <funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org>funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org >> [mailto:<funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org> >> funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] *On Behalf Of *Joel Esler >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:24 AM >> *To:* Dan Kaminsky >> >> *Cc:* < <funsec@linuxbox.org>funsec@linuxbox.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [funsec] Apple has a new toy >> >> >> >> My point in saying that was that Windows 7, with touch controls is not a >> touch OS. If you've tried to use Windows 7 with your finger, it's >> essentially a mouse pointer under your finger. It's inelegant, >> it's imprecise, and hard to use. Apple took the time to figure out how >> people would use an OS that is touch, and they invented the iPhone and the >> iPod touch and continually refine it. >> >> >> >> Make no bones about it, I'm an Apple guy, and apologist. I've used >> Windows Vista and Windows 7 with touch enabled on a touch device, and it's >> not even close to the experience that you get on an iPhone or any of the >> future Apple devices that will be touch enabled (not just the iPad, but the >> Macbooks). >> >> >> >> A touch OS is different from a regular OS. A regular OS you navigate with >> a keyboard and mouse, a touch OS you navigate with your finger, (or several >> fingers). You can do things in a touch OS that you can't do in a regular OS >> and Microsoft has not figured that out. yet. Even if you use natural >> devices like ink (a pen based device to navigate your OS), it's still a >> "mouse pointer". >> >> >> >> Not saying they won't. But they will. We are on the edge of OS >> development. We are going away from the "folder" "file icon" type of OS and >> computers that you navigate with your keyboard and mouse into a whole new >> field of OSes and devices. >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dan Kaminsky < <d...@doxpara.com> >> d...@doxpara.com> wrote: >> >> What's the bright line? >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Joel Esler < <esl...@gmail.com> >> esl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> But Windows 7, despite what MSFT is trying to do, is not a touch OS. >> The iPhone OS *is* a touch OS. >> >> >> >> J >> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dragos Ruiu < <d...@kyx.net>d...@kyx.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> On 28-Jan-10, at 3:06 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote: >> >> The gOOglePAD will have flash support, but it most likely will be a fake >> codec. >> >> >> >> The Nokia minilaptop, which I just finally saw/held a real version of, is >> at about the >> same price point as the iPad, runs Win7 and has a 3G connection but has >> real kb. >> They are in the same weight range and I would argue are competing for the >> same >> usage/market. >> >> cheers, >> --dr >> >> >> >> >> -- >> World Security Pros. Cutting Edge Training, Tools, and Techniques >> Vancouver, Canada March 22-26 <http://cansecwest.com> >> http://cansecwest.com >> Amsterdam, Netherlands June 16/17 <http://eusecwest.com> >> http://eusecwest.com >> pgpkey <http://dragos.com/>http://dragos.com/ kyxpgp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Joel Esler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> <https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec> >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Joel Esler >> > > > > -- > Joel Esler > > -- Joel Esler
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