I'm convinced that certifications have given us an army of IT workers
that have letters but are utterly unqualified. And they get employed by
the thousands.
Exhibit A: Web developers.
On the upside, unlimited job security for those of us who have to
respond to incidents involving their lousy crap.
On 11/29/12 1:05 PM, Ballard, Sean (OS/ASA/OCIO/ITIO) (CTR) wrote:
The MCSE bootcamp craze of the late 1990's was crazy to, so many used car
salesmen turned instant engineers.
-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On
Behalf Of John Bambenek
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:59 PM
To: funsec@linuxbox.org
Subject: Re: [funsec] "Skills gap"?
FWIW, I was trolling my employer Ernst & Young about a decade ago about
certifications so I took the CCNA one day after cramming a book. Prior to the
exam, I had never laid eyes on a cisco device, much less interacted with one.
Passed the test.
Anyone need a network engineer? :)
On 11/29/12 12:36 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
Yes, I actually built real networks. :-)
- ferg
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
<michael.blanch...@emc.com> wrote:
Don't Cisco certs require you to perform a function on real
equipment? Or did they remove that piece :-(
The tester would "break" a network in such a complex manner that the testee
would have to dig deep into their practical knowledge to make it work again... within the
allotted time period...
I always liked that as a valid "test" of knowledge actually...
Michael P. Blanchard
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of
Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation
32 Coslin Drive
Southboro, MA 01772
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From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org
[mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Paul Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:21 PM
To: Rich Kulawiec
Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org
Subject: Re: [funsec] "Skills gap"?
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Rich Kulawiec <r...@gsp.org> wrote:
Certifications are, in practice, crap.
Amen.
Short story: As an early Cisco engineer, I (and may other very
talented people) helped develop the original CCIE program. I wince
now when I hear people reference Cisco "certifications" because now,
they are absolutely meaningless.
Curmudgeonly yours,
- ferg
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"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
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