On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2013 19:04:03 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: >> When I lived in Georgia in the 1990s, one of its counties passed an >> ordnance requiring all citizens own a gun. Around the same time, a >> county in Chicago passed a ordinance banning guns. Do you want to take >> a guess at which county experienced an increase in crime, and which >> experienced a decrease? > > Multiple studies have shows that access to guns is only one very small part > of what drives the *reported* crime rate. Economic and educational conditions > in the area, and the resident's relationship with the police, have a much > higher impact on how many crimes get committed, and how many get reported. > >> Anyway, the debate is not a religion to me as long as I can own one to >> rise against the government if needed. > > Oh, bother. If more of the "rise against the government if needed" crowd > was realistic about that, we could actually have rational discussions about > gun control. Sometimes the threat of action is more compelling than the act itself (Sun Tzu).
> There's a whole lot more to doing an effective resistance than just "I have > a gun". But except for some militia groups that actually train, none of > the "rise against the government" crowd want to admit it. Yes, you're right. There are better ways to approach that problem (http://www.aeinstein.org). > Remember - if it comes to that, you're going against people who do that > shit day in day out for a living. And yet, mandating a tour in the National > Guard so people have seen it and learned it *before* the bullets start flying > doesn't go over very well with the gun-rights crew (who see any sort of > mandatory training requirement as an infringement). Right. There are better ways to approach that problem (http://www.aeinstein.org). The citizens, the military, and law enforcement are all victims of the same hypocrisy. There's no reason that they should fight amongst themselves. Jeff _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
