If you are over 1M+ hits a day, then it doesn't matter if you use a canned
app or write it yourself, reports are not going to explode back at your
screen.  And it is my experience that StatsServer running on a properly
tuned enterprise DB is much faster in delivering real-time reporting than
comparable processes in CF.

Some of the webstat packages I have used in production keep efficient by
running SQL summarizers and cleaners on a regular basis (ie. every 7 or 30
days).  Tracking tables get stupidly large without them.

> I demonstrated this to my dad and he said: "Is there a billion dollar
> company that does this same thing?"  haha

But that said, hey, I'm a fool too.  Lately I have been writing apps that
track sessions (userid,IP,fuseaction/dts/etc) and login attempts.

It all began on a string of enterprise jobs with specific security auditing
specs that required logging outside of that available under the existing web
stat services.  But I have discovered it is also useful for recreating
users' error and hacking scenarios, and as a debugging tool during
development.

I really like your idea of tracking cfid/cftoken as well, think I will add
that in.

And hey, hard drives are so cheap now, and just dying to be stuffed full of
tracking data.

John Foulds
Ottawa, Canada


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: CF based web stats


> i've started experimenting with bypassing webserver logs and just
> logging every hit myself into the database.  By doing this I can see a
> dynamic log reports on every page (for properly secured people).  So, no
> more waiting for hours for a log report tool to give you crappy reports.
>
> But the truly cool thing is that instead of running reports based on IP
> address, I can run reports based on the #client.user_id# or
> #client.cfid#/#client.cftoken# So it's designed to give incredibly
> powerful reports.
>
> It's still in the very beginning stages, i've only put about 3-4 hours
> into it, if any of you that are coming to conference want a
> demonstration, let me know.
>
> I demonstrated this to my dad and he said: "Is there a billion dollar
> company that does this same thing?"  haha
>
> Steve


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