.... and I've sent a copy out of fairness to the author...
Mr. Patrick Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED]

article in question:
http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/archives/0211/steil/index.html.

Rick



----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Helms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: arguments **against** fusebox


> What would be REALLY helpful is to let CFDJ know how you all feel. Alan is
> right--there's no conspiracy going on; just a desire to fill pages. What
> they did isn't defensible, but the only way they'll know is if people let
> them know what they like and what they don't like. Honestly, you'd be
> shocked how much of an impact even a single email has. I'll make it even
> easier: the email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, the only outside
feedback
> they get is from people who care enough to email them and it is taken very
> seriously. (In fact, you could even put in a plug for your favorite
> col...;-)
>
> Hal Helms
> == See www.ColdFusionTraining.com for info on "Best Practices with
> ColdFusion & Fusebox" training, Jan 22-25 ==
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:59 PM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: arguments **against** fusebox
>
>
> I read that article a few weeks ago and didn't realize that the writer had
> an interest in the product that got the most favorable reviews. I
> subsequently went and signed up for the trial.
>
> Now that I've read this thread, I would have to agree, as a reader who has
> been deceived by CFDJ and Infrastructure Inc., I would have to agree that
> their practices are very questionable.
>
> Benjamin S. Rogers
> Web Developer, c4.net
> voice: (508) 240-0051
> fax: (508) 240-0057
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McCollough, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:59 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: arguments **against** fusebox
>
>
> Okay, I've written for CFDJ, and plan to do so in the future, but I also
> have a long history in the publishing industry. Here is my slant on the
> whole issue
>
>
> CFDJ is but one of a family of publications put out by SYS-CON publishing.
> The actual page assembly itself is done by folks who apparently work on
> Macs, using QuarkXPress. This isn't bad a'tall, actually its great from an
> electronic pre-press standpoint. BuTtTtTt, do remember, their primary
> business is SELLING ADVERTISING and SELLING SUBSCRIPTIONS. That's where
the
> rubber meets the road.
>
> Now, you cannot sell advertising unless you have readers. You cannot
attract
> readers unless you have articles to for the readers to read. Their entire
> biosphere consists of subscribers and advertisers, with money being the
> oxygen that drives the whole thing. Articles are what they need to pry
money
> out of reader's pockets. Lots of articles. Ask somebody who writes on a
> regular basis, such as Hal, and I'm sure he'll tell you it takes a lotta
> time to write a good article, and you come nowhere near recovering your
> expenses on what you receive as payment.
>
> As a magazine editor, you need, desperately need, new articles for each
> issue, and not just new articles, but new articles on whatever the 'hot'
> topic of the month is. Therefore, if somebody totally unfamiliar to the
> Fusebox ship of fools does a lame-o review of the Fusebox Methodology
book,
> as far as the editor is concerned, that's another page of print taken care
> of.
>
> CFDJ is not a million-subscriber publication that is gonna have a staff of
> editorial reviewers. There are -not- going to be investigative phone
calls,
> gumshoe detective work, or down-in-the-trenches street journalism work
being
> done. Its gonna be a "Here's an article. Is it ok? Good! Print it!"
> operation.
>
> I don't say that as a slam against CFDJ, cuz' if I was operating the place
> it would probably be the same.
>
> So what to do? Use this to your advantage!
>
> Fuseboxers, unite and start writing a slew of articles! Create code snips
> that are Fuseboxed! Write reviews of products and describe how they
> integrate into Fusebox! Basically, let's turn CFDJ into FBDJ!
>
>
> Alan McCollough
> Web Programmer
> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Alaska Native Medical Center
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:23 PM
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: Re: arguments **against** fusebox
> >
> > I can't bite my tongue any longer. CFDJ has for several months been
> > pushing
> > the limits when it comes to journalism ethics. Having the a writer who's
> > financially invested in one of several products he's reviewing is highly
> > questionable and at least just looks really bad, now matter how well
it's
> > done. Then to throw in a FREE methodology into a comparison of NOT FREE
> > products, slam it on false facts, is all together incredible.
> >
> > Just my two cents.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
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