Need to mark this thread as off topic and/or preferrably move this off the
list it has nothing to do with fusebox. I don't have any feelings one way
or the other on this topic, but do know we don't need it on this list.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Isaacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
> First off, you have to be kidding if you think I'm supposed to feel bad
for
> Microsoft?
> I'm sorry but how could I. They bully competitors, over charge for their
> products, offer
> terrible support for their crap, and on top of that they are smug about
it.
>
> Second, as a professional web developer for some time now, I have examined
> many
> of Microsoft's products, and I would like to official weight in with my
> opinion.
>
> I think Microsoft products suck. Their OS is crap. Their database tools
are
> horrible.
> (SQL Server is a waste of money), their development tools are horrible
(VSS
> stinks),
> and their web server (IIS) is slow and full of security holes. In fact
word
> is HotMail was hacked
> yet again yesterday. How many times is that now? My company had to
virtually
> shut down
> last week because of yet another worm that found its way into out system.
>
> I will say that I thought IE was a good browser until the crap they pulled
> this week, with "opps --
> we accidentally took out Netscape Plugins. Sorry, no more quicktime".
> So now I switched back to using Netscape again. Screw that. I love
> Quicktime.
>
> The truth is I have been forced into using these products. But they are
not
> my choice.
>
> At work I use MS because its the company I work for's decision to do so.
> But at home I run Red Hat Linux. Because I like having choices. I also
> love, love, love the fact that its free. So while others go out and spend
> money on software, I'm happily saving mine, and still getting a rock
solid,
> fast, powerful OS. And that goes for virtual all the software available
for
> it. Apace, MySQL, PHP, SAMBA, CVS, JAVA and thousands of other tools.
>
> Go ahead give your money to Microsoft.
> They certainly act like they appreciate it. Just look how they treat
people.
>
> "The greatest power we have as an individual, is with out pocketbooks"
>
> What do others think?
>
> P.Isaacs
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:26 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> I like Microsoft's products...I think some of their business ploys are a
> little dirty but hey...It's business. We could turn this into a real
> philosophical debate but cmon...the only difference we can make as a
> consumer is watchout for our best interests.
>
> I will say though that Win2k was their first operating system. Everything
> before that was crap. I did tech support for 2 years and sys admin for 3.
> Don't even get me started on win95/98. ;-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:18 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> (deep breath)
>
> Why is everyone do agro agro about Microsoft? What do the majority of you
> guys use?! I would assume Windows. MS do what they need to do to survive
> in still a very competitive market. Anyone can make software with correct
> knowledge and tools - its not as if they are countries using their power
to
> corrupt other nations is it? <cough cough> ring a bell?
>
> Jeez, look at Apple - they release an already 2 years late OS which you
> would have to re-purchase all your software for anyway?! erm and thats
not
> underhand? Apple are in teh position they are in for one reason, they
didn't
> license the OS rights - nail in the coffin right there. Oh and it doesn't
> work well - something Windows does, despire the hear 'say - Windows 95/98
I
> will give you, they were pants, but NT, 2K are pretty stable - I have
never
> had to reboot a server in anger.
>
> I suggest you guys take the time out to realise just how much work was put
> into making the MS business and maybe take some time out from your bitchin
> to read Randell E. Stross's book - The Microsoft Way; it is a fair expose
of
> the man and the company - I think it will open a lot of eyes.
>
> Maybe the QT thing was deliberate, maybe it wasn't - but there will be a
> resolution.
>
> "Open Your minds, be formless."
>
> Neil
>
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