I think we expected to much. Added to many requirements to fast. I must say that Joe Watson did an excellent job with the Fb Tutor though. A good app to tear through.
Tim Heald ACP/CCFD Application Development www.schoollink.net -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FLASH, CF, PHP, SOAP, Fusebox, XML, UML for Fuseml tool(was:Site Logic Flo Tim, Sorry to see fbcommunity fall by the wayside. I had hoped to see that grow into something. I personally don't see myself as much of a leader, so I don't know if I would be a good candidate for the position, but I do try to contribute as much as I can to the cause. Jeff On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 23:17, Tim Heald wrote: > Having been a part of a mostly failed attempt at a "community" application > before I would recommend the following. > > 1. Assign a leader. Pick someone who has a lot of time and is dedicated to > this. Most of the reason the other app fell apart was because the 4 of us > who were serious started getting bogged down with external stuff like paying > jobs. > > 2. Be vary strict about your requirements, and make very very small and > measurable iterations. Don't try and bite off too much. > > 3. Take any advice from the "senior" FB members seriously. I tried but > didn't follow all the suggestions I got from people in the know. I think > this contributed greatly to our lack of success. > > Most of all pick a very confident and pushy project head. I hate to say it > but you almost have to bully people into doing things. I mean besides a > small core of rock steady people who are serious you will probably get a lot > of people who just want to watch and not really work. > > Sorry if I sound kind of negative, I feel there are a few people here who > put a lot of work into something only to get let down, sorry if anyone feels > like I did some of the letting down :( > > In short have whoever takes charge get in touch with me. I live to code :) > > Tim Heald > ACP/CCFD > Application Development > www.schoollink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:32 PM > To: Fusebox List > Subject: FLASH, CF, PHP, SOAP, Fusebox, XML, UML for Fuseml tool > (was:Site Logic Flowch > > > Alright, how about a little feedback here. > I'll admit that I'm never done anything collaborative like this with anyone > outside of Oklahoma. > Looks like we have several volunteers so far. > Drew Harris > Tim Heald > Jeff Miller > John Farrar > David Huyck...? > > Any others...? > How should we proceed? Start a list, or just collaborate off line? > Perhaps we should start a temp list so others can join as time goes by. > Thoughts...? > > I think this project will involve ColdFusion, PHP, Perhaps SOAP, Fusebox (of > course), XML, Flash, and UML... As well as creating some standards for > FUSEML along the way... Very cool stuff! > > Well? > Drew Harris > > > On 4/12/02 3:41 PM, "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David, > > I think you are exactly right. If you use an XML file to provide the data > > you can edit it using whatever language you feel like. I would like to > learn > > some more about XML, specifically how it works with CF. Shoot me a line > if > > I can lend a hand. > > > > Tim Heald > > ACP/CCFD :) > > Application Development > > www.schoollink.net > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: David Huyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:48 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: Site Logic Flowchart Tool > >> > >> > >> It seems to me that you would never have to touch Flash for this > >> project if it > >> is done right. If the Flash graphing tool is built to simply > >> accept generic > >> input, you should be able to just create a page to output the data for > the > >> SWF, and it wouldn't matter if that page was built in PHP of CF. > >> > >> my two cents, > >> David Huyck > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jeff Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:08 PM > >> Subject: Re: Site Logic Flowchart Tool > >> > >> > >> | I'd be interested in doing a possible PHP version of this app. My PHP > >> | skills are a bit limited (I managed to make it through the > >> | wireframetool, not sure how I did that one) and Flash experience is > >> | non-existent, but I'll give it a go. > >> | > >> | Jeff > >> | > >> | On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 13:59, John Farrar wrote: > >> | > I am game for the project Drew... my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > >> let's give it a go. It's fun to build cool tools. (The pay is not quite > as > >> rewarding though!) > >> | > > >> | > John > >> | > > >> | > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 01:23PM >>> > >> | > What do you think John? > >> | > Anyone else think this is a good idea and want to/can help with it? > >> | > > >> | > -Drew Harris > >> | > On 4/12/02 12:06 PM, "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> | > > >> | > > Why don't you two team up and build it. > >> | > > > >> | > > Steve > >> | > > > >> | > > Drew Harris wrote: > >> | > > > >> | > >> John, > >> | > >> I originally posted this to the steering list with no response. > >> | > >> Maybe this is a better place for it...? > >> | > >> > >> | > >> Alright, not sure this is the best place for this post, > >> but I'll try it > >> here > >> | > >> first. > >> | > >> I'd personally love to see a simple Flash/Fusebox app that > >> allows on > >> the > >> | > >> fly, on the web creation of UML documents for Fusebox apps and the > >> business > >> | > >> processes that surround them. > >> | > >> Wouldn't think it'd be that hard to develop something like > >> this using > >> | > >> Flash...? > >> | > >> -Drew Harris > >> | > >> > >> | > >> On 4/12/02 10:44 AM, "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> | > >> > >> | > >>> I was thinking... has anyone built a flowcharting tool that goes > >> through the > >> | > >>> fuseactions, gets the XFA's and creates a flowchart based on exit > >> | > >>> fuseactions. > >> | > >>> It should be simple to do... but it would be even better > >> if there were > >> a > >> | > >>> tool > >> | > >>> that could do a logic map. This would help in testing, > >> debugging and > >> | > >>> enhancement. (If someone makes one... we should also have > >> some sort of > >> | > >>> versioning built in.) > >> | > >>> > >> | > >>> John Farrar > >> | > >>> > >> | > >>> > >> | > >> > >> | > > > >> | > > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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