I hate to tell you naysayers out there but this is just the way it works...

I work for a non-profit association (a specialty society for Emergency
Physicians), in order to vote for a member of our Board of Directors or
committees, etc., an emergency physician must be a member of the
organization. Those that are not members, may not vote--they have no say in
what we do or how we do it..

Furthermore, there are documents that we produce, mostly in the form of
policy statements, but there are others, that are widely accepted and
applied by hospitals, governments, lawyers and other medical specialties as
being the standard for the practice of emergency medicine.

This is very analogous to what's going on here. To have a say, you join. The
biggest difference is that with the Fusebox organization, you can decide how
much you want to pay in order to join (doctors are required to pay over $500
to join us).

Thanks for letting me squeeze that in... now we can take this to the FB
Community list.

Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: fusebox council


God bless Democracy. 

I believe anyone should be able to vote. Period. But you are creating a
cast like system of sorts by only allowing paying members to vote.
Perhaps a level of voting value should be placed higher on "official"
members. 1 point for non-members 2 for members. But I don't know if that
is even a better solution. 

And yes, let's please take this discussion elsewhere if possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: fusebox council


I feel the same as Alan in that I've peeved too many people off as well.
I can't vote either because I'm too poor and trying to make it one day
at a time.  But no matter who is elected each of us do make some change
in one way or another to the standard somehow.  Our environment will
never be the same no matter what anyone may say in a general standard.
For example, I use "request.maindsn" verses "request.dsn" for my main
DSN pointer.  Why you ask?  Because there are times where I may have
more than one datasource I may need to use and this helps me keep them
separate.  Is this still fusebox?  Yes.  Does the Fusebox council care?
No.

The only thing the council has done that I have remote problems with is
those silly e-mails about what is or isn't allowed on the list that I've
gotten twice.  Trust me I don't lose a lot of sleep of it because it
isn't worth it.  So I'm asking you as a fellow developer rludyk let it
go. Fighting over this will not solve anything.  All you are going to do
is peeve too many people off and for what.  There isn't anything here to
be gained.  Just let it go man; I'm begging you.  Let it go.


Lee Foster
(e)consultant, Web developer, Web Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
615-834-1876 http://www.l3enterprises.com Nashville, TN -----Original
Message-----
From: Alan McCollough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: fusebox council

Don't feel too bad about it, I can't even vote, and I've paid in! I
think I've peeved too many people.

Really though, I think the FB Illuminiati consists of ordinary folks who
do this FB stuff as an aside to their daily foraging for sticks and
berries and wild roots for subsistance. There is no guarantee that every
move they make will be perfection. Hey, I'm just glad that
somebod(y|ies) has bothered to carry the FB effort this far at all!

But hey, if one of the Illuminati wants to go through their PayPal
receipts, they will see I've ponied up some cake, and I wanna vote!

Alan McCollough (in case the auto-sig doesn't work)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> voting in "this" fusebox council is illegitimate ! most of the 
> individuals in the elections are nominated by themselves. if you 
> bought the right to vote, you are presented with a list of nominees 
> that give you very little detail. i should not be able to nominate 
> myself. if i am nominated by someone else the public has a right to 
> know who made the nomination and why. my donation was based on my 
> belief in the cause, and i believe that if i
>
> can't donate the time, then i will donate the cash.
> was it wasted ? and is this so called "council" brave enough to defend

> their self serving actions
>
>
>



Alan McCollough
Web Programmer
Alaska Native Medical Ctr.

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