ditto, that was where I was trying to go with my soapbox post from 
before.  For those who have not tried it I have a module for security at 
www.spime.com/fb3security  by using modules others can choose what to add 
and what not to add, if everyone makes a new core file then we have  to 
find out how to merge two "plug-ins" in to one core file as apposed to just 
adding modules.  I thought FB3 was to help make plug and play 
items.  perhaps new core files should be reserved for the steering community?



At 04:16 PM 5/9/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>Exactly my thoughts....
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gallant, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 09 May 2002 16:11
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: FuseQ
> >
> >
> > Sounds like the best thing for Fusebox to me.  Keep it fast,
> > use what you need.  That would also suppress peoples need to
> > modify the existing core because people could just right
> > modules to do what is needed.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nathan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:54 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: FuseQ
> >
> >
> > Yes!  Yes! Yes!  Modular, maybe even with an add-in API?
> >
> > -nate
> > --------------------------
> > Nathan Smith   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   515.288.3667    www.ipmvs.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thu May 09 09:43:44 2002
> > Subject: RE: FuseQ
> >
> > Personally I was really excited about the security concepts
> > Steve/Hal were coming up with a few months back that led to
> > the arguments over Permissions and roles - and then it all went quiet.
> >
> > I think we've got to be careful about pumping the core files
> > with stuff that just wouldn't get used. An interesting idea
> > would be something along the lines of how Apache works, in
> > that it's extensible. Being able to plug in modules into the
> > core files would be something very neat...it's like the
> > SESconverter, some use it, some don't have a need for it.
> > Possibly having a config file for the fusebox which somehow
> > incorporates these extensions into the core files and opens
> > up additional variables would be very neat -
> > DISCLAIMER: These are just thoughts I'm having whilst I'm
> > typing, nothing more!
> >
> > Let's keep the core nice and trimmed...the way it should be :)
> >
> > John.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: craig girard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 09 May 2002 15:42
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: FuseQ
> > >
> > >
> > > What about your security model?  I'd love to see that in the
> > > core files.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "hal helms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:04 PM
> > > Subject: RE: FuseQ
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, we have a spec so that anyone who writes to
> > that spec can
> > > > share their code. That doesn't mean that people can't make
> > > changes or
> > > > try innovations. I agree that a strict "don't ever change the core
> > > > files" is easier to work with, but there are real needs for
> > > > new/different functionality. For example, in order to
> > > better implement
> > > > Model View Controller, I really needed the ability to
> > > execute multiple
> > > > fuseactions in the same HTTP request scope. So FuseQ does
> > this. But
> > > > you can take a standard FB3 app and use the techspedition
> > core file
> > > > with it and it will run just fine.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 4:42 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: FuseQ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <FB3soapbox>
> > > > so now we need stickers so we know if a module will work
> > > with windows
> > > > 95, or NT?? oh sorry FB3, FB3FEX, or FB3fuseQ???  I always
> > > thought the
> > > > "rule"
> > > > was do not mess with the core if you plan on sharing code
> > (free or
> > > > not)...if anyone can make their own core file then why do
> > > we have this
> > > > new
> > > > community? why do we have these big debates? ANARCHY FOR ALL!!!
> > > > </FB3soapbox>
> > > >
> > > > <note>
> > > > yes I know not all modules change the core just there so make a
> > > > point</note>
> > > >
> > > > At 03:30 PM 5/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >ANYONE CAN MAKE THEIR OWN FUSEBOX FILES
> > > > >
> > > > >which is what they have done.  They have made files that are
> > > > >compliant
> > > > >to the current spec, but extend it.  As long as you
> > > provide ALL of the
> > > > >functionality provided by the current files,  you are in
> > > compliance
> > > > >with Fusebox 3.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: craig girard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:34 PM
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: Re: FuseQ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Ok, just went to this site...................is
> > > techspedition making
> > > > >their OWN fusebox files?
> > > > >
> > > > >whats with that?
> > > > >
> > > > >Craig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "John Beynon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: FuseQ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's gonna be here
> > > > > > http://www.techspedition.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=code.Main I
> > > > > > reckon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Rich Tretola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 08 May 2002 14:43
> > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > > > Subject: FuseQ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone where I can get a copy of the new FuseQ
> > stuff that John
> > > > > > > presented at CF_North?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rich
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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